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No show huh? Some things never change! My heart goes out to those looking for something to make em important or that they can "depend" on. When we allow others to do our thinking for us..it's dangerous. So they all got drunk and watched a rerun? Sounds like fun. Not!
I am simply shocked! (not) I DO have to wonder about all of those who purchased cross-country airline tickets only to review last year's video. How starkingly "black and white" it is that she doesn't give a ****e about her students. Why, she'll only have more come through the revolving door, while the others exit.
I had NO idea of anything more about RSE when I was "rudely" awakened by the TV's "What the Bleep" with JZ as R. I bought the movie, and we thought it was "interesting." I went to the website for RSE and only wished to learn "ancient" knowledge of healing. I had NO idea of the school's history, or that the intent was for the producing a "Christ." It began with total innocence of little more than this. Then the disciplines were interesting initially, the C & E (TM or whatever!) along with the music borrowed from recent movies did produce a "high" or "trance" and it felt calming. The teachings on the levels of existence (since I'd read about such in eastern culture philosophy etc.) made sense. Micael's talk was extremely grasping-this man had been researching and was in the Vatican library with access to everything. Finding cards in the field was initially a challenge and when I found mine, it reinforced the teaching of analogous mind. The schedule was rough, and my small group wasn't entirely convinced of this "channelling" drunken being who went on for hours about J's personal life, used the foulest language, spat on the stage, and punched (I didn't see this but others did) a long-time student. I left with good feelings about being positive and more "organized" about my day.
Then I went to my follow-up and several subsequent events, one not in Yelm, and then primaries with the BC teachings.
WTH was going on here, I asked? People gossiping, JZR NOT showing up, confused teachings from teachers differing from my beginner's group - oh man. It was abusive, and I'm not ever going to pay for that or watch others being abused.
But I still wonder, how many of those people who continue to fly in year after year for the New Year's event, and then JZR bails? They STILL think there's an exalted entity there?
Hey, Tammy - as you said in another post. Maybe she just didn't want to put on her "face" or her lips exploded from too much collagen.
Will those who keep returning continue to sleep?
G@G..I give you KUDOS...you have expressed your displeasure, disgust and dissilusionment well, with no sneering for the most part (thought the constant harping on JZ's plastic surgery is kind of cruel) and not targeted anybody who has not injured you personally. Without advocating acts of vengefulness or violence. Really good.
And Tammy, if it hadn't turned my stomach to think of what those delicacies you mentioned would actually look like, I would say the same to you.
Tyger; are you saying that because you weigh 165 lbs. and you are middle aged, you couldn't possibly be a bully??????
How much did Hitler weigh? How tall or old was Stalin? How old is JZ?
My ex is older than you, and skinnier. Also I am betting that my friendly local Karate Master weighing 140 and standing about 5'3 could do a heap of damage if he wasn't ethically bound to fight only in defense of life or limb. Think about it. I think there is a difference between defending yourself and vollunteering to bust heads.
Stop, .....please. This is getting embarrassing.
G2G said, "Will those who keep returning continue to sleep?"
Some will. Some will quietly doubt and do nothing but patch it up with their rationalizations - and - go back to their next event. Some will do what I (and others) did, and privately search online to find out if anyone else is out there who has the doubts and questions that they do. Or have private conversations with friends about the discrepancies.
I already posted once or twice, about the last Christmas event that I went to out there. It was "marketed" big time, and since I travel so far, I decided I was going to treat myself. So for the single evening event, I traveled far. I cried all the way home and for days after.
It wasn't anything like it was marketed to be. It was a drunken wine ceremony. I was "hit on" by men and women, as I was just walking to the bathroom. I witnessed quite a litany of disgusting behaviors. I drank very little wine, and had quite the view from where I sat. DISGUSTING. Puking, fighting, a big woman, quite heavy-set, fell on me as she stumbled, trying to get back to her seat. (I'm quite short) She was leaning on me like a pillow for a good half hour. My arm went numb. But, for more reasons that I'll get into here, I just shut up and sat there, listening and watching. I was covered in wine splatters and baked/fried chicken, that went flying all over the place, though the air. Why ? "Ramtha" was doing a toast and held his glass in an outstretched manner - a signal to students to come up to the stage and toast his glass. They all ran. RAN. Over anything and anyone in their path. Disgusting. Staff was stinking drunk, and I witnessed several fights almost break out. The dancing (more like a mating call) was ongoing, until about 4 a.m. I had nowhere to go, and it was cold outside. I wasn't prepared, but I left and would walk around outside until I was so cold that I had to go back in again. Couldn't sleep. Tried to go to my car, but too cold to stay long.
I should have left when I arrived at the event and the staff handed out two barf bags to each student as they entered the door.
The marketing was totally misleading. It was one of the worst events I ever attended.
My Christmas gift that year ? I saw the strawberry. The appalling event served to push me out the door and cut the ties that bound me. It was probably the saddest Christmas (not counting when my father died), ever. I was stunned at what I saw that night. The betrayal was deep but that strawberry in the mud was coming closer to the surface for me to pluck. Ripe.
I came home and stayed up until the wee hours of the morning, night after night. I was online googling things like "Ramtha" "fraud" "critics" "JZ", and I found a lot of information that I wish I had found earlier. Better late than never !