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Re: is it an act or is she just plain sic?

Magpi,

There’s a guy who worked (not sure if he’s still there) across from the ranch at a garage that rented out RV’s. Lousy quality and service from what I’ve heard and once experienced, but that’s an aside. This guy rented some friends and I an RV one time in particular, and as we all were standing around chatting, he asked us why in the world we were going there (the ranch).
What he told me was one (of many) red flags I was collecting as time went on. He CLAIMED he knew JZ when she first moved to that property in the little blue house. He’d crossed paths with her a number of times and one day, she said to him, “I found a way to make a lot of money and I’m going to do it.” Now, I can’t prove that the guy is or was telling the truth or not, but it IS true that he said it. I’ve wondered just how premeditated her channeling actually was.

Also, what you said about the soulmates video is true. I saw it. I had the same reaction to it, too.

I remember sitting through a few wine ceremonies when Ramthimher would come into audience, late, and then spend much of the drunken evening talking about JZ. It was disgusting. I don’t care about her botox, or her lip injections, or boobs, or the first orgasm she ever had which was with Blue Body, or the first ******* she ever gave, which was to Blue Body, or how they bicker and he plays golf, or how he’s going to bring people down because they talk about how fat she’s become and they are jealous of her (yuck), etc. It just went onnnnnnnn and on for HOURS. It was appalling. It’s recorded. It’s embarrassing ! Yes, I DID walk out and I wasn’t the only one. I froze my butt off outside because I couldn’t get into the RV. I sat in a cold car, unprepared, because I didn’t expect I’d be walking out.


Magpi said, “Ironically, SHE is the epitome of what was taught against! That females dont need a man? Has she ever been on her own? She is the very "image" that all of us are supposed to conquer in and of ourself. But,she has an excuse for everything..of course.”

Always.

V.C. was humiliated in audience before dying at a young age. Why didn't Ramthimher heal her ??? He said she deserved it. Sharin' that love, eh ?

Re: is it an act or is she just plain sic?

What can be more pathetic than a grown woman saying she considers Ram her "father"?

Answer:

Someone believing it. Way pathetic.

I’ve wondered just how premeditated her channeling actually was.

Response:

Really, you have "wondered" about channeling. Call 911 - quick.

Re: is it an act or is she just plain sic?

Leemar,

Too bad you took my sentence out of context. Let me explain it more simply:

I said I wondered HOW premeditated her channeling ACTUALLY was.

If you knew the stories that have gone through the grapevine about people talking of her premeditated plans for "channeling" (such as taking acting classes), etc., perhaps you would have been able to post more than just a sarcastic, "Call 911 quick."

Re: is it an act or is she just plain sic?

I am well aware of the accusations of practicing her channeling. Of course the accusations because no on can channel, whatever that even means, anything.

Believing in channeling is like believing in Harry Potter. It is a bunch of poop.

I didn't take anything out of context or misinterpret a word.

Hey I've got a flying broom - want to buy it?

Re: is it an act or is she just plain sic?

Whatchamacallit, glad im not the only one that saw it!
Thank you for responding.
Wine ceremonies? I was never able to get thru one. Too revolting. Drunken party? NOT pretty! EGO Maniacs on stage...egging it on. Made me sick. Who cares about "Roses" or "Bone Cracker" or if bb has a hard on or not? Were you there for that one?

Re: is it an act or is she just plain sic?

Magpi asked, "Were you there for that one?"

No, I missed that one. Too bad, LOL ! What is the most disgusting, imo, is kids are in those audiences.

Leemar, you can keep your broom, and your sarcasm. I don't need either, thank you. I'm doing just fine. I'm also wondering now, more and more, about your sister's side of the story.

Re: is it an act or is she just plain sic?

Watcha

Go ahead and ask her.

You probably know better how to contact her than I do.

Re: Will you ever move on ... without her ?

"how to contact her "

Leemar, you do know how to contact her. She's at her events.

Re: is it an act or is she just plain sic?

whatchamacallit, I dont understand what you said about vc? R said she deserved it? To die of cancer? Fill me in please.

Re: is it an act or is she just plain sic?

Magpi,

I have an audio recording (CD or tape?) that was made shortly before V.C. passed away. R drew attention to her in audience, and addressed her. What was said to her, in front of all of those people, was incredibly cruel and heartless. V.C. wasn't the most kind person, and had an abrupt, commonly offensive way about her demeanor. That was a description many would give her, including herself. I heard it FROM her. She was aware.

Nevertheless, that's aside from the fact the woman was dying from cancer, and in her last days/weeks/months, received a refusal from The All Loving One, to heal her. Not that she asked, but he overtly refused, saying she did not deserve it, but she deserved to die.

Need I say more ?

Yup, go register for an event, folks (not).



Re: is it an act or is she just plain sic?

whatchamacallit, thanks for responding. i was confused.i can see R saying that. the question is why did she have a position as staff in the first place if she was not up to code?

Re: is it an act or is she just plain sic?

whatchamacallit,
perhaps it wasn't "R" that refused to heal V.C. or that was so cruel?

Re: is it an act or is she just plain sic?

magpi,

my understanding that her employment at rse was connected to a relation to jz by some in-law connection, but i don't remember exactly how.

Re: is it an act or is she just plain sic?

Magpi said, "perhaps it wasn't "R" that refused to heal V.C. or that was so cruel?"

M, I'm not sure where you're going with that. If you mean there was someone other than R coming through, or JZ was faking it, I can't prove.
What I know, is that there was a definite shift from a more loving, kind, RESPECTFUL approach, with a funny sense of humor, and that attitude from the teacher, changed radically over a period of time that was around the wine ceremonies and "truth teachings".

I know what the excuse was, for the change, but I don't buy it. So many people left the school at that time, that it was NOT good for business. Next thing we know, the shift was toward "science", and simultaneously, the branching out to a global $$$$$. As usual, follow the money.

Re: is it an act or is she just plain sic?

Whatchamacallit, what I was alluding to is that (perhaps) the reason v.c. was refused is this. That it wasn't R at all..but rather hampton herself. Who, as we all know cant heal squat. And, doesn't know squat or OMEGA (and twinkies..) would not have happened!
Look, if R was actually there would all the scams have occurred? From an alledged entity that harped on MORALITY? That kicked ass at a "truth" teaching? In which he told "Dr Joe" he didn't want him teaching? And Evans..said she treats males as if she's a dog and they are hydrants" that's a quote! Said evans goes around "pissing" on guys". WHOA, "Lady Star"? From MY experience ther was two different factions...at war. Hampton-w/her agenda and something else that spoke to a higher more pristine aspect of all of us. hampton had her own agenda.
I believe at one time there was divine intervention. That hampton wasn't able to handle. An opportunity that was compromised to welcome all. What was light..became dark. Once again plunged into sexuality. Honest to God. Who the hell cares about her first orgasm or bjob? "Enlightenment"?
There's a harshness and cruelty that exists at rse. It's called POWER. It's what v.c. was caught up in. When a person gives up their conscience to "belong" to something and be important. It's what everyone bought into. Remember Hitler?
RSE isn't a "dead end" per se..but rather a learning experience. The Lesson is, dont EVER give our power away to the opinion of others.
I cant imagine being hampton..she is a pathetic dangerous individual. But, so are many who went to RSE..w/their own agenda. She isn't an individual..that's just it. NO ONE who has walked w/a master, had all those "teachings"..would get up on national television and blame her smoking on GENDER! It's to be pitied! When in FACT the ist of the teachings are that GOG isn't male or female. Both and neither. Isn't THAT how it started out? And, the explanation for why "R" spoke thru a "woman"?
What twst has hampton ever passed? Litmus being the teachings? Hello?
She reminds me of a drug addict. That never knows where they are..where they been..where they're going. Firgets what they said earlier and changes horses in mid stream. I wouldn't bet on that horse.