I remember when I was just learning about Ramtha. It was such a brave new world, all the drama and mystery. I was at the exact time in my life when I could have fallen for it, but man! It was fun! I had no idea of what I would learn at RSE and I was stunned and enthralled. I call it the 'Honeymoon Phase'(HP). And, just like when in love, the chemicals are pumping big time so a rational mind might not be available. For me, the HP was about two years. FreeNow

marie- my ex now sells new age health stuff too! is your mom involved in a multi-level marketting/pyramid scheme? my ex sure is! i called it before her event, too. i almost wote down on paper "she will break up with me, find a ramster who she becomes really interested in, and start selling isogenix"

i would have a 3 for 3 if i had written it down. she didn't exactly leve me for a ramster, but she talks to him on the phone every day, etc. anyways, so creepy the way these patterns go. her mom also sells anti aging stuff through orenda, another pyriamid scheme.

zyxwv ,

Sorry to hear that. Pyramid schemes are akin to destructive cults in many ways. One being, the people at the top can always claim it is not destructive to them, the people underneath have gotten a small little taste and sooooooo want to be on the top, the upper middle and below, are just the subserviant labor for the ones above ; all along singing what a great thing it is!!!

Notice, that would not be what the laborers building the pyramids in Egypt would probably be singing.

Many Many and I mean Many pyramid schemes go in and out of Yelm. The people who are the biggest MLM ers (Ron Reid, Rebecca Galbraith) usually bring them in hard and fast.
Reservetrol was originally found in wine and in grape juice; WHICH , was promoted by "scientific studies" at the ranch. It does have an anti-aging agent in it, so I guess the new producers of the herbalized reservatrol have found a new MLM nitch.

You can Google reservatrol.
Many are now advertising on the Master's Connection.

and Marie:
I am not surprised by your sister not being able to find viable work in the area. For the better jobs, one has to go to Olympia, Tacoma, and some even to Tacoma.
Many Ramster have started their own businesses. Many do tele-marketing through a company called OMI. Many more to elderly home care -usually privately. But when the patient kicks off, one needs to find another. Very typical for this area.
Many Ramsters also work under the table...and of course, it is within the "community" or network of Ramsters.
Unless of course you think you "score" and work for THEE organization-at which they get you for a bargain basement price with no health or 401k benefits (because you are your blue body and you are fabulously wealthy). They can pay cheap wages because they know they have a work pool of many thousand. Who would not give their right arm or leg to work for
"the next Christ?"

pyramid schemes ....

Yep I can attest to this.. if I had a buck for everything someone approached me.

I belive it is simply a CON GAME.

I never participated... as I always had a going business and made my own money.

Those things tended to be some GET RICH FAST deal for those who were feeding off the money of others.

and they called that Self-Mastery and Manifesting.

There really are a lot of very manipulative con artist in these groups.

You must be able to see from the sky not the trees to call a spade a spade in those things.

It is always BUYER BE WARE.

Tree -- I will say that for my sister -- as "taken" as she seems to be with everything else RSE, she has somehow maintained the "knowingness" that she needs to keep her good paying tech job in order to live in the manner she wants to.... I think she just had a facelift, and has had her eyes "done" in the past.. Her husband lost his job with the same company about a year or so ago and has from that time been going back and forth from Massachusettes to Yelm on a regular basis, and staying for long stretches... that's what makes me think he's working on the UG... What he's doing for income now, I don't know... He did get a good severance from his job, but not enough to retire on... Anyway, my point is, that with him not working legitimately anyway, I am kind of surprised they both haven't made the move there, as it seems to me the fact that only one would now have to quit their job would make their current location less stable...

"someone else posted that JZ was particularly loving and supportive this particular BC event, perhaps because of all the recent flak on this board... So it just is an illustration to me how my mother's moods are reflective of how she is treated at the ranch.."

I DO think the flak caused by this board reflects what will happen at events.I think an even bigger flak would be a court case.

Marie-
I would have to agree with your assessment of your sister and her husband.
There are many who come here who have money. Some get good paying jobs (like your sister) in order to keep up with that lifestyle.
For most, it is a HUGE shift as far as income is concerned.
I am sure your sister's husband has some under that table help here in Yelm.
The latest, greatest UG's are going for over $160/sq foot. Quite a cry up from the original "no microphone night" teaching Jan 9, 1991 that started all this.

Guys!!
Remember it's NOT the big r.
It is "the stupid made up thing called ramther or ramtha.
I have found some truth in the teachings about the "blue body". I stayed at my kids house. 20 acres on solar with an outhouse. Now this is TRUE!!
When I got done taking a ramtha (that's a #2) my ass was BLUE!!
It was unbelieveable!
Hey plastic judy!!If you or your blue assed buddies read this.
Bring it on you *^#@. I'll flush you like I did my last ramtha.

Braddah Bud

Right on Bud....I like the way you think

Humour....LOVE IT!!

I stoop to this level in hopes of being so demeaning that in some way these folks can laugh at something they appear to be in fear of. Equating j z knight with with excrement is childish and silly. It parallels her teachings,.........sorta like my farts.
Who loves you judy baby???

Glad you enjoyed. Hope I catch on.

Bud - I'm so sorry for what you're going through. But one thing - at least you're "venting' if you catch my "drift." Just keep on breaking "wind" - which Judith claims Ramtha "is." Hm. From an anatomical perspective, perhaps ya really did "dump" the big guy!

(sometimes the "bathroom" humour helps when one is dealing with such tragedy!)

("Lord of the Wind" indeed. Does that interpret to Ramtha is just a big phart or Judith has a bad case of the vapors?)

Remember to take time to laugh. It's part of dealing with and healing.