Here's the registration:

Rocky Mountain Resource Center
PO Box 2414
Loveland, CO 80538
970-490-2032

The Mountain States Conference Registration Form

Number Attending? ___________

Which Track(s)? Please mark how many
attending in each category below.

“Cults:”_______ ”Gangs:”_______ “Hate Groups:”________
Participants may go to any breakout sessions
they wish to; numbers are for planning purposes only.

Name(s): _______________________________________

Street Address: __________________________________

City: ____________________ State/ZIP: ______________

Phone Number(s): ________________________________

Student(s): ____________________ Other(s): __________

Please include check or money order for the correct
amount, as we are a nonprofit organization!
Student cost is $25 before March 20th and $35 afterwards. All
others (professionals, instructors, etc.) are $50 before 3/20/08;
$75 afterwards. THANK YOU and call us if you have any questions!

If anyone wants the original flyer, email me and I'll send a PDF file to you. The location of the event is 400 E Boardwalk, Ft Collins, CO. Lunch is provided at this conference. We are working on CEU credits since so many universities are involved in this event.
Hal

Hal, I am a little worried about the long term and bigger picture agenda of your group. Where does your group stand on our 1st amendment rights and on the constitution in general?

Also, hypothetically, if Jesus were alive today would he and his followers be considered a cult, a gang, or a hate group? Long ago, Christianity was once considered a cult and is now the faith of millions.

I know many involved in this conference and on this message board have a sincere concern about cults, gangs, etc but please don't be naive. Your good will may one day be manipulated in favor of taking away our very precious civil liberties. Just something to ponder...

If you are Christian (and even if you are not)please take the time to check out Alex Jones on www.infowars.com or www.prisonplanet.com He is some really valuable insights into what is happening to this country and our civil liberties.

I sense that you yourself have an agenda here. Abuse is abuse and I don't buy the arguement that actions like that are covered by the constitution. People have the right to hate, but not to hurt and that's what we are dealing with. We deal with actual abuse and violence cases, not theory. There's a big difference.

Alex Jones can be a bit over the top I have found...it is very interesting looking into all the conspiracy stuff...and some of it I do believe holds some truth...but you must be careful to not get too caught up in all the hype/fear that comes from those sites...

I wrap myself up in tinfoil every once in a while..but find it becomes a bit much to continually roll around in it..I mean...there is a life I need to live...

have the strength to change the things you can ...and have the wisdom to accept the things you can't...

I prefer the gold foil myself!

Yes Hal...but I find it a bit flakey!!

Oh, Hal ! You're experience and wisdom shine brightly.

I'm so glad we've met. I know I am not alone with that sentiment.

Thanks for everything.

okay, I bit, protect-our-constitution, and looked at the alexjones site 'infowars.com'. This guy has "nutcase" written all over his site...

for example, Alex bellows about this:
"His [Alex Jones] most recent [video] is Martial Law, a three hour blockbuster which exposes the brutal treatment of protesters at the 2004 RNC conference, the real story behind 9/11, the occult connections of secret societies, the push to make Arnold Schwarzenegger the first foreign born president and much more."

and:
"In the Summer of 2000, Alex successfully infiltrated Bohemian Grove, meeting place for the global elite in an ancient redwood forest of northern California. This was documented by World of Wonder in their Secret Rulers of the World series, shown in the UK on Channel 4 and aired nationwide in the US multiple times on the Trio Network."

The flaw in A Jones view is that he expects me to believe that he has some magical insight that sees world affairs either from the bottom [Guy Noir, underground spy] or from the top [God's Eye View--A Jones is God's eye].

Hal and others in the cult awareness field as I know them work from eye-level based on real evidence, not bizarre overviews and cut-and-paste conspiracy schemes about 9/11.

As far as the Jesus cult 2000 years ago, that's a red-herring and moot regarding what I would do as an exit counselor with St. Peter, for example. Cult awareness folks work with current evidence. We can study directly what Rev Moon or JZ K do, for example. What Buddha or Zoroaster did in real time is anybody's guess and a historian's task to piece together. But that is irrelevent to today's cult behaviors that we can study first hand.

Alex J's cartoony "expose" of Bohemian Grove is a laffer....it ranks with the notion that Walt Disney was trying to create a New World Order based on occult magic because he illustrated fairy tales.

fyi, you can start here to educate yourself about Alex Jones---

http://alexjonesexposed.blogspot.com/

I saw the same stuff and thought the same thing. I thought people could read it for themselves, but you are right Joe!

ditto thanks Joe - I really don't like to go to strange places unless I have to. I am curious though about the need to wrap yourself in tin foil - what's that all about guys? I know women get 'foils' for their hair...

also a quick funny - when I first read it, I saw 'cult and paste.'

The tin foil reference is that some people thought that putting tin foil in their hats would keep the government mind contrl waves out. Or aliens, take your pick!

I agree with much of what is said on the conspiracy economy front. This is a great read on the subject, a journalist who travelled with a variety of extremist groups, the title is Them: Adventures with extremist groups. I believe the author was john ronson.

In any case, if all was true then wouldn't these grass root coilitions of conspiracy advocates be worrdied that they are all identified by the amount of time they spend on these sites? And since they are all identified and catoragized by the amount of time they spend, then when it all goes down, they will be the first ones to go since they are the not so silent minority?

When I listen to that kind of stuff and begin to feel a pull of any kind as far as legitimacy, I always ask myself to make a mental note of what is left out an then examine what is left out on both my own guesses and then through the "conspiracy" black colored glasses.

I see the gathering of the Ron Paul clan following the same marketing strategy of the Bleep film and sweeping all of the alex jones types along with them. The internet appears to be the best placement of propaganda for the bucks.

Hal, I was wondering if you will be having a segment on the internet and its use by hate groups and cults at the conference???

Hi, we aren't doing internet as a stand alone workshop, but I integrated it into my own. I did do a segement on PBS and the school systems here on recruiting by supremacists on the net. I still have the tape somewhere!

Hal said, "I did do a segement on PBS and the school systems here on recruiting by supremacists on the net."

I would like to see every school in this country include cult awareness in their curriculum. Colleges, too. It is amazing (and disgusting) to me that our public school children are taught about aspects of sexual pathology as early as 2nd grade (students around here were taught/sent home with info packets on AIDS), but we don't want to protect-educate our youth with the tools to recognize the pyschology of mind control, in the various ways it can come into our lives. Cults are one way, and an important one to be aWAREy of. ( Bear with the play on words ;-)

Seems to me if the right group of people got together, this could be brought to fruition.

watcha- I totally agree, there needs to be serious education in schools on cults and the persuasion and appeal of cults. Education that doesn't paint those that fall for such things as stupid, because then it's easy to dismiss - who wants to think of themselves as stupid - but rather education that highlights that it could happen to anybody.

there also needs to be vast education in roles of the likes of the Social Securtiy Administration, who hand out denials to post cult people without full knowledge of what transpires.
Same goes for disability benefits in regards to credit card companies, etc.
Also local area physicianS, psychiatrists and therapists, who closest thing they know to this is veteran's PTSD.
It's an uphill battle the entire way.

Hi LWO,

You said, "Education that doesn't paint those that fall for such things as stupid, because then it's easy to dismiss - who wants to think of themselves as stupid - but rather education that highlights that it could happen to anybody."

Yes, exactly.
Especially with no prior understanding of just how subtle the process of cult indoctrination is, so that it's recognized for what it is, in advance, the danger of being in denial that "it can't ever happent to me", is just that - denial. Perhaps arrogance. Perhaps both.

Education about the psychological tactics at play are so important.

I got caught up in the RSE experience because (as I've said before) I KNOW that there is more than just the physical world experience. I've been clairvoyant since I was a young girl and I still am. It came naturally to me for some reason I do not understand. So, despite that I have a happy life and was not actively searching for happiness or purpose in my life. I did have a curiousity and still do, about the unseen side of life because I KNOW it is real. Nothing wrong with a health curiousity. Plenty wrong with deceiving people by slowly boiling frogs as they do in RSE.

Whatcha....... "The denial that it can happen to you"

So V.E.R.Y. WELL SAID.... to ALL in this audience.

ALL will eventually fall prey to some kind of manipulated mind control.......sometime in their life.

Thats how everything is being set up at this point in time.

Whether you see this and admit to this future potential and its potential reality is your business and learning experience.

But as "Whatcha" states..... it happens in the comfort
of warm water that then is brought to a boil.....or lowered to below freezing.

It's not just mind control but conditioning that we are all at the effect of - whether it's the religious or social or educational beliefs thrust upon us as children to the nightly news and everything else and everyone around us that is geared to have us believe an agenda.
Everything seems to be geared to push a belief system on us. Even this site does that. In fact, I can't think of anything that doesn't really.
In a sense, I think it's an aberrated sense of unity. "If I can get you think my way then we can both be in harmony and peace".
I think the operative word is discernment - not just for information coming at us, but the awareness that we can be at the effect of all that information.
It's a good thing, I think, to examine our beliefs and trace the roots of them. The things we are holding on to - are they our beliefs, or the beliefs of others that we are allowing to affect our thinking, our actions.
It takes a lot of conscious work to dig deep into what we have allowed to shape us and to have the courage to let go of what no longer serves us. This site is a good tool to help do just that.

Wolf, yes, depending on the time of year the frogs could be boiled or frozen, hahaha.

Bodhi, that's a good point about discernment being an integral part of awareness regarding what we accept are true/real/part of our belief structure. Having the education and understanding of the dynamics of mind control certainly would help people to exercise discernment.

HAL...I assume you're reading this...if you are, how would you say that discernment, mind control and critical thinking tie together ? Sounds like a good workshop presentation to me !

All three of those areas are tied together. I find, as you did, that there are crossovers in all the areas. In my "guest" column, I outline what is critical thinking. I also like the website I listed. It covers in a lot more detail things about thinking, etc.

I personaly like my wife's idea of critical thinking, labeled as her "crap detector". She uses it a lot on me!

Hal..

Also..
A good Crepe detection... is very essential…

chuckle..

INGREDIENTS
1 cup all-purpose flour
2 eggs
1/2 cup milk
1/2 cup water
1/4 teaspoon salt
2 tablespoons butter, melted

DIRECTIONS
In a large mixing bowl, whisk together the flour and the eggs. Gradually add in the milk and water, stirring to combine. Add the salt and butter; beat until smooth.
Heat a lightly oiled griddle or frying pan over medium high heat. Pour or scoop the batter onto the griddle, using approximately 1/4 cup for each crepe. Tilt the pan with a circular motion so that the batter coats the surface evenly.
Cook the crepe for about 2 minutes, until the bottom is light brown. Loosen with a spatula, turn and cook the other side. Serve hot.

Link..
http://allrecipes.com/Recipe/Basic-Crepes/Detail.aspx

I could never do decent crepes, but my popovers are great!

Hal & David, you two are so far off topic ! (laughing!)

Readers: Here is the link for those who haven't already seen it, that Hal wrote about critical thinking...

http://enlightenmefree.com/speakers.html

Hal said, "I could never do decent crepes, but my popovers are great!"

Hmmm....as I recall, you don't do salad dressing very well, either.