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Re: some of rams appointed teachers out of control trying to rule my life

pS: Lost, I did not think Dion Fortune was a psychiatrist, so I just checked wikipedia:
"She was born at Bryn-y-Bia in Llandudno, Wales, and grew up in a household where Christian Science was rigorously practiced . She reported visions of Atlantis at age four and the developing of psychic abilities during her twentieth year , at which time she suffered a nervous breakdown; after her recovery she found herself drawn to the occult . She joined the Theosophical Society and attended courses in psychology and psychoanalysis at the University of London , and became a lay psychotherapist at the Medico-Psychological Clinic in Brunswick Square ."

so she was a "lay psychologist."

Re: some of rams appointed teachers out of control trying to rule my life

Well Joe, in spite of that, the advice she gives in the book is good. On the subject of reality - it is unique to the individual, and so is "the cure"...what Ramnomore would read in that book is that, regardless of whether the teachers are actually sending her that energy, it is real to her, and she needs to take action - use her power of imagination, to construct mental/figurative shields of light/strengthen her aura/surround herself with God's grace/activate a mirror fortress, or whatever form defending herself from the intrusion of whatever it is, whether negative energy, her own thoughtforms, erroneous ideas she may hold, actual powers of those Masters,or whatever, could take.
Dion Fortune left the Golden Dawn to start her own society, which is still going on. was not advocating for anybody to join it. or discouraging that either. That wasn't the point. I think Dion Fortune's advice is excellent, regardless.

Re: some of rams appointed teachers out of control trying to rule my life

Agreed, that some psychiatrists are a few bricks short of a load, while others are decent honourable and compassionate people with a wisdom to rival Solomon's...(in spite of their training, lol)...and the same could be said of "occultists"...

Re: some of rams appointed teachers out of control trying to rule my life

Sounds like a psychotic breakdown to me. David you better rescue this woman. She may commit suicide. Her mental health is in jeopardy with her thoughts.

"David McCarthy
Do you understand what a Trojan Horse is?
I am sure you do.
I would advise you seek psychiatric counseling immediately.

David."

Hmmmmm, good job David, give her a helping hand. Let's see if she follows through. She says, she is not crazy, David. So now, what do you do?


"G2G
The school has taught you that "you are god," right? One god shall not "trespass" another. As the school teaches, simply state, "you shall not pass."
Live in your own light and love. Do remember, the school teaches "you create your reality". So all you need do is say NO, right?

Beyond this, I agree with the much more experienced posters above. "

Now , this is a good post, "you create your reality." I couldn't agree more. In addition. I would add sometimes people have their personal demons that through the transference process, they assign their so called enemies personalities/face to, thereby making them the demon.


"seesallsides

Those people may not even be completely aware of when they are doing it, or, you may also be recieving ORB or other astral energies that are probably many, hanging onto them, especially with all the alcohol use going on.
I hate to admit this,[to all you RSE haters reading this] but I have often used the TRIAD as well as the color violet, around my body, and the emotional thought of Protection, as well as a Mirror that reflects thier junk back onto "them". It works becasue I believe it will....."

Hmmmm, other entities masquerading as them? Could be, didn't Halloween just pass? Perhaps the teachers dream state. Maybe this person's dream state. Who is to say. Of all the beautiful students with nice bodies out there, why just this one? Maybe there are more. Hmmmmm, I guess the psychiatrist will be awfully busy making plans for their next big vacation or new car, with all the business JZK, Inc and company are sending her way. Think JZK, Inc is getting a kick back? Oh no, I forgot, you guys post that she is the scammer out there taking the students money. I wonder what the mental health field and doctors do, work for free?

Some thoughts from a councelor/psychic

Some thoughts from a councelor/psychic...

"This stuff is very complicated. Psychic attack in spiritual circles is mostly agreed upon to be an attack using 'black magic' or negative psychic intent towards another person. A lot of emphasis is put on protecting yourself from possible attack or negative influences from negative people. I do have clients who believe this is happening to them and they are mostly a huge pain in the **** to deal with because of the paranoia, loss of personal power and idea that they need to to chase the baddies away or keep the baddies away. It can be very difficult to get across to them the power of the mind, the power of beleif, and that they are giving their power away by beleiving that someone else can do this to them. I'm not saying that psychic attack is real or not real, only that it serves no useful psychological purpose to beleive in it, to put mental energy into it. It's healthier to focus on positive, supportive, loving energies and people and just get on with life. Energy flows where attention goes, your pespective shapes your perception and experience of reality. I teach protection in my course but its all about how to help yourself feel safe and about setting healthy boundaries.... definitely not geared around. 'there are bad things out there that can get you so be scared' which is what alot of this stuff acheives. Antyhing is possible and its up to you what reality/headspace you choose to buy into. I don't buy into ones that promote paranoia because they aren't psychologically healthy! I do remove bad things from peoples aura's but I don't worry too much about trying to define what those things are- mostly I consider them to be symbolic of negative headspaces or toxic emotions and leave it at that. I had a discussion about demons with a studetn yesterday.... In my book, even they have a place in the world if they are real because the world is made up of yin and yang and we need all shades of colours even the darker ones.... negative energies can be dangerous but important to remember they are damaged, misguided, ignorant ... the light and a lot more fun! Also, as a healer, I tend to be very comfortable with dark stuff, don't destroy, only transform."

Re: some of rams appointed teachers out of control trying to rule my life

I wish this was the computer my printer is hooked up to...Vegan Pride, that is great!

Re: some of rams appointed teachers out of control trying to rule my life

So my posts are being deleted. but you keep ramnomore. She is obviously lying or severely mentally ill and you KNOW it. ramnomore is likely just tree using another identity.

Re: some of rams appointed teachers out of control trying to rule my life

Why the obsession with Tree via character assassination?
She spoke truth. She stepped forward among a community full
of those who would take offense. She is courageous beyond
words.

I remember "R" saying, "I will lie to you." So is that alright
with current RSE'ers?

People paying thousands of dollars/euros for admitted
lies - well, this is just going off topic much to the
delight of those at RSE.

If EMF continues to present itself, the truthseekers will
come, in love and compassion - something "R" tramples
upon.

I'm stunned why some RSE'ers would pounce on Tree,
claiming she is not being honest, yet still pay these
thousands of dollars for an admitted teaching of lies.

Follow the money - follow the money.

Re: some of rams appointed teachers out of control trying to rule my life

G2G,

Excellent point. "Ramtha" has said that s/he will lie to students, a number of times. I can vouch for that. I was there and heard it.

Re: some of rams appointed teachers out of control trying to rule my life

Ramnomore, maybe my experience will help you. Years ago, pre-RSE, I was taking metaphysical classes, and there was an older man in the group who kept flirting with me. We were friends but I didn't want anything more than that. I felt pressured but hadn't yet learned to be direct. One night I dreamed that he was doing his suggestive flirting, and I told him to cut it out. When he didn't stop, I had had enough, and I slapped his face (in my dream).

The next day, I saw this man in "normal" reality. The first words out of his mouth, before I had a chance to say anything were: "I got your message." Then he told me he knew I had slapped him in the dream state, and he would back off. He did, and we enjoyed a platonic friendship for many years.