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Re: Masters disConnection

Hitler's Nazi party connection with Theosophy was through something called Ariosophy [all Theosophy stemming from Blavatsky, AA Bailey and the I AM Activity have elements of racism] that influenced early Nazism.
this is a good description of Ariosophy:
"Ariosophy, occult wisdom concerning Aryans, was coined by Jorg Lanz von Liebenfels (1874-1954) in 1915. This occultism took root in central Europe at the start of the 20th century. It mainly sprung from Theosophical movement, but rejected the Theosophy's commitment to human brotherhood in favor of a system of belief claiming that only people of northern Indo-European, "Aryan," descent were actually human and capable of spiritual development. Ariosophy stemmed from the ideologies shared by most Western countries in the 19th century, but was chiefly formed in the writings of Guido von List (1848-1919) and Liebenfels, two Austrian occultists who contributed important.

As with most occult movements, Ariosophy was not a coherent system as there were various versions of its basic set of beliefs. Apparently there was a general consensus that modern humanity was descendents from two different species: Aryans, who were the true human beings, and non-Aryans, who were soulless animals who happened to look like humans. Modern Europeans were descendents of interbreeding between the species, while people of other races were simply animals lacking human, Aryan, blood. The interbreeding with other races was said to be the cause for the Aryan race to lose some supernatural powers that were originally its birthright which the study of occultism sought to restore.

Ariosophy greatly influenced the spread of the mysticism of Nazism. Much of the Nazi program during the 1920s and 1930s was simply a restatement of Ariosophical ideas. It is known that Adolf Hitler subscribed to an Ariosophical magazine when living in Vienna, and many of the higher officials of the Third Reich had Ariosophical connections. Although it appears that Ariosophy was influential on the formation of Nazism, many scholars were quick to point out they did not think it should be held responsible for terrible incidents such as Auschwitz.

Similar ideas, although from different historical roots, were embodied in the Christian Identity movement, an occult-influence religious and political movement, which emerged in America during the mid-twentieth century. A.G.H."

http://www.themystica.org/mystica/articles/a/ariosophy.html

The Nazis were at odds with all other forms of occultism including that of Steiner despite similarities, so Anthroposophy was suppressed in Germany under Hitler. Think of occult organizations today---all are elitist with their own special "vertical" connection to the Pure Source.

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to continue: Steiner was a Theosophist under the Blavatsky Lodges until 1912 or so. Steiner disagreed with Besant and Leadbeater's orientalizing the occult--this turn occurred in 1907 when Leadbeater first promoted J Krishnamurti, then age 13, as the "New World Teacher" [Maitreya]. Steiner took the whole German section of Theosophy and renamed it Anthroposophy with his emphasis on the "Christ" following a Rosicrucian angle to mysticism.

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one last thing on Steiner for those sympathetic....I am not implying that he was "racist" in his activity or intent, but some of his bizarre, mystical ideas about human origins have been used against him in the past.

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thanks joe. good to know history.

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well so we have the thought line of the ranch.yelm divided in ramsters [the true ariens]and all the mixed races.and then someone writs that the nisqually news trys to divide the comunity.if you think i am joking there r enough remarks from jzr about villigers and masters.there r also remarks like the jews are the bigest victims.and suportiv remarks via adolf.during the time i believed in ramtha i allways wonderd why jzr intermingels all kind of reflections about politics history....in her 'pure'teachings.we will see were this all goes.

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Joe - incredible post sharing your understanding re: theosophy. Is this knowledge something you studied as part of your work as exit counsellor? I am sure it is essential in unraveling belief systems, reality derails etc in mental institutions too.

Thx - it is shocking to see how all new age stuff is sourced similarly. and I never thought about how racism could be a root cause/reason for occultism too.. wow, have to think about that for a while.

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the history of the occult and new age occultism since the Renaissance is the history of grandiose and delusional men and women trying to do a leap over or an end run around science.
Such folks always claim to have "special insight" or "special powers" unknown to the scholars struggling with facts and reality. Partly, I think this comes from a human need to know the deep mysteries of existence and to predict the future. I can understand that but I no longer tolerate the fake bs that passes for channeling, astrological prediction, telepathy, mental healing, etc. The Theosophists were trying to establish a "science" of the occult in the late 19th century to compete with natural science. their first attempt at organization before the Theosophical Society [1875] was called the "Miracle Club." They wanted to prove that miraculous "phenomena" exist and can be produced at will.
Blavatsky once called science a "strutting gamecock" and promised to outdo it with her "evidence" which was all psychic smoke and mirrors in then end-----remind you of anyone?????

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The science and sociology of the day in the 19th century had racist elements [manifest destiny, survival of the fittest], so occultists followed suit with their "more profound" theories about "root races" and odd fantasies about aliens mating with apes to make "black folks," etc. The founder of my old cult CUT, Mark Prophet taught that latter bit of racist trivia in secret...
Today occultists like JZ/R try to outdo/outrun research in physics and quantum research but make the same old mistakes.

Re: Masters disConnection

Did they ever mention the shepherds in the lonely fields? (insert dry sense of humour here). Just imagine. One could sheer the wool off of their torso and knit a "magical elfin cape." (insert sarcasm here)


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I know this question sounds stupid, G2G, but, where did "magical elfin capes" fit in with the teachings or practices at the school? was it a tribute to Lord of the Rings? Or, was it just that they were for sale at that store? I don't get it.