Yes I did. Many "results". Positive and really amazing. The way I figure is that I was ready to accept a level of expanding my "brain potential"...and for whatever reasons, chose RSE to further learning, and "jumpstart", in what I have called a "crash course", in developing my other senses. My overall personal history explains more, but one small thing is how I had already initiated "amazing" things to happen in my life, and yes they evolved from scenarios where there was sensory/material depravation[extreem wilderness living arrangements]..etc....so when I found cards on the field, made it to the tank in one straight line of walking, , speed healed a horses leg, etc...I see it as simply the fact that I applied my mind more than I would have if the school did not push it. Like the same scenario if I go to ANY structured school, take "classes", get Tested, graded etc. Self motivation vs. having a boss to get you to work....So I never felt I wasted my money at RSE.
I know many posters here will deny me here, and say it wasnt what I think it was, but hey Ramtha told me that too one day after I found a card. I walked up to "him" and said.
"I just found this card while my monkey mind was going 90 miles an hour. I was mentally raging at my boyfriend the whole way. So whats up with that?"
I was telling him that his insistance we had to only focus on the card, wasnt necessarily true.

He launched into a diatribe that went way over my head, but also, seemed to be telling me I was intrepreting my experience Wrong. I still disagree with whatever he said, becasue after all that, I have many times where I "manifest" very quickly while in a state of high emotion, mental thoughts going on, etc... Healings as well....and I cant prove things, like with the horse, but there were amazed witnesses...and also, I COMBINED C and E style with my own color usage, mentally, as well as emotionality, during that and other "focuses".
But even after all that, I think people can learn all this stuff without going to RSE, and no I no longer recommend going there to anyone, although in those old days..I thought it was a big deal too and yes I also had many friends think I was nuts to be there, and were glad when I left.
So I have my theories why some people didnt get positive results, but I also have to be honest here with this question posted.
Ill never know how things would have gone if I hadnt gone thru all that. But i did have a few people comment on my personality changing for the better...which I think referred to my sense of strength and self confidence...not to mention my left brain more able to process intellectually..having a real Interest in subjects I previously had not.
I had NEVER joined any other "spiritual" groups, and didnt even like group meditations before RSE!
I was also not a "seeker" for a guru..I came to the school becasue after listening to certain tapes, I finally becasme inspired to make certain changes, Such as quitting smoking pot. That meant alot to me that RSE inspired me in positive ways to do things I was having a hard time with before.
But I know everybody is different. I didnt sign a contract, and I ALways left the scene if I was unconfortable. I left there in 94, before the wine and all

seeallsides.....
I can appreciate your viewpoint.
I have never said I came away with nothing.
I DO think much of the material presented 1)has been around for eons 2) has been plagiarized from somewhere else-with a twist.
I had a very amazing experience on the very first focus beach (consciously going in and and out of my body on command).
I had an aweseome Tahumo experience with the first small group that was introduced to it.
I actually manifest the things on my cards quite well, as well as finding my card with regularity. But my father taught me that as a child.
etc etc
I do know my personality changed for the WORSE while I was there.
Was argumentative, confrontational...but I think these were by products of thought reform.
Thank goodness those parts of me are exiting in recovery.
I just have not seen the overall good of having attended for all those years.
I was already an accomplished athlete, musician, have a college degree...
In the light of my whole life, I think the last 18 years have been stagnant.
But I can see, from your point of view, the pot thing, the self esteem thing....

Thanks Tree
it ****** me off that someone would take good things and pollute them with thier agendas [the seamy underside of most spiritual guru types.]. I can see how being in there, 18 years, and being so intrenched, hooked you psychologically for a ride...I remember one retreat I worked as parking/garbage staff, in exhange for the fee...we had a job of loading these mountains [I mean 6 ft stacks she must have collected over the years] of catalogues from the carport behind the bullpen, to the dump...I realized just a little of how fanatic JZ was..I wondered if indeed she "gave up her life" to do the Ram...and I still wonder if shes jsut so taken over by WHATEVER the "school" is about, that theres no hope for reform unless the student body just abandons her, or this group causes legal trouble enough. I can even see why she wont ever let it go either, becasue its not hard to claim that the Ram does "more good than harm" in the world, acording to the stats anyway.
I intrepreted my "leaving" as a sign I got what I needed, and that "Ram" was not a localized energy, and would certainly blow in the wind with me on my way to the waterless, feared desert, where I wondered if Id die in the earth changes..which I didnt. How rediculous to think this area was "the safest"...yet, duh, I can see how alot of water around isnt a bad thing either...but I also had to work out alot of fear I had about leaving, and it took a few months of not listening to any tapes or anything Ramtha, just to feel what "my god" is like by itself. And I spoke to people using Ramtha ideas, but never saying "Ramtha said bla bla", becasue they were wisdoms that were also commonsense learnings, and it didnt matter where they came from, as long as applied, they helped out. I knew if I said ramthas name I wouldnt get listened to either. So it was wierd to come back here after 6 years away and hear these long time students still giving Ramtha all the credit for ideas. I asked one friend in the car one day if could she please tell me her experience without going "Ramtha said...", and she got offended becasue I guess she thought I didnt respect Him or something [gees, sounds like the Churchs god] ,..then after that every time we were in a dialogue I saw she tried leaving his name out for my sake...but soon, she distanced me anyway, as if I was some enemy of the teachings. And her kid in CSE, finding cards so easily, and her arrogance that he was such a good master...all this as if in a state of competition about everything....reptilian brain style...
And it appears the New Ramtha instigates people to these directions..I wonder why more old timers dont just get tired of the dogma and leave!!
I guess some peopel are more group oriented than I am, becasue I never felt like the school was "home" for me, nor did I at the Rainbow gatherings...same mind control feeling that you had to get intrenched in the group consciousness OR ELSE!!!
I wish I could have hung out at Lloyd Hopkins Mind Sight School. I met him once in Olympia. Im always glad to see regular humans doing big stuff.
Oh also, have you heard of Greta Woodrew??????
She wrote a book called "Memories of tomorrow"
I found her book in 1998 or so, and you just have to get it and read it, becasue that story of hers really made me see JZ was not telling the truth.
Thanks to many postings here I realize even more how JZ took stuff from others, and convinced the ignorant that she was number one. Like American Idol. Yuk!

Tree, and others. Is it a possibility to sue? I mean, you were made promises that couldn't be met. Could you take a group action? The things you are suffering now could be proven to be directly linked to the school, especially psychological damages. Any thoughts on that?

I only went to one beginners retreat and even I experience mild levels of anxiety when I hear the teachings or anything to do with Ramtha. My partner went to what he could afford and got every available cd. He talked about it everyday and did his disciplines, so for a fews years I lived the school through him. I hate it! There's an illogical, egotisistical, stupid answer to justify everything -any question and any scientific objection. The school hijacked his mind. Results: his already heavy ego expanded to planetary proportions! We divorced.