Kosmos,

This is such a typical example of hypocritical thinking on your part. But then "garbage in, garbage out " as they say.

" agree with you Ryder.She is blaming Steve for raping her 10 years ago!!! c'mon. Move on with your life."

WHy not ask yourself the question "How can I agree with steve and tell tree to move on with regard to her being raped, when R/JZ/Greg and the rest all go on and on about the catholic church and blame them for countless horiffic deeds?" (just to mention a few)

I suggest the answer is you both feel empowered by singling out tree.Attempting to hold her responsible but not your" teachers", boss, etc is the same dynamic that existed in Enron, Watergate, The Valerie Plame leak,

For me your fear of those over you is obvious and your inability to hold them accountable and ask them the hard questions ie; "where's the beef?" shows clearly you are not willing to consider the possibility that you have been conned.

Think for a moment. To whoms advantage is that that you are limited in your ability to hold them accountable? Perhaps you think it is your advantage because you have been told that holding them accountable = doubt and that will keep you from enlightenment.

In a way, I would agree with that, but the enlightenment you are being kept from in that case might just be the enlightenment of the limiting of your choices by being sold a bill of goods.

Follow the $'s

"It is a shame that one can actually believe a lie when they know better."

Well spoken, guest.

And what of the predator who encourages the lie when she knows better?

Well said.

And, since you are here, current students...another caution. Lay off the Catholic church...it is within their power, if they so choose, to squish you like a pesky bug.
Pick on somebody your own size.
NOT A CATHOLIC

there seems to be a lot of tension and arguments on this site. This is the first time I have heard someone say they think a woman is lying about being raped. that's pretty serious. I wonder if there are any other exit cult web sites where ex members and family relatives can seek community, but end up arguing with zealots?

How long have you known her? If you have known her for very long you would know she is quick to anger, and when she is angry she lashes out a people without reason.
How long have you also known Steve. I have known him for about four years. He has always treated me with respect and watching him with his daughter Jayda you can tell they have a wonderful relationship. It is soooo absurd to accuse him of rape. Comparing the two of them it is so obvious that she is lying. Just ask people that know her very well. It is only the people that she has just met that are supporting her accusation.

Oh, dear.

This thread is clearly devolving, which was probable right from the start with Ryder's attack on Tree.

You current students/staff KNOW you are not supposed to be posting here. Certainly not to bring your personal agenda against Tree on board.

So us mean moderators are locking this thread, and suggest that ya'll stop so we don't have to take the next step - and block your ability to post at all.

If you want to whine at the moderators, our contact email is listed at the top of the message board page.