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You will know them by their FRUIT.
The TRUE FACT IS... they only TALK about these WILD THINGS... happening in this school.
But NONE OF THEM... can PRODUCE the FRUIT of the Teachings ON COMMAND.. ON DEMAND... it is more whimiscal a big maybe or perhaps.. or could be.... sort of thing.
This is the reason the school stays in business.. people like you and me WANT TO BELIEVE... that is a given with us... but then as we take a close look all we find are REASONS for the FAILURE of the STUDENT... rather then THE MASSES of WINNERS SHOWING THE PROOF.
It does not pan out they they would teach this stuff and then tell you to store food for the days to come. They thend to want it both ways.
But if the teaching are true... wh would anyone NEED to stor food or prepare for the days to come?
So many people have lost everyting in the POSSIBILITIES of a greater SELF.
It is very sad. Families have been broken, jobs lost... and money and home equities has became just a bank transfer from your account to the Channel.
In addition, leaving these types of groups leaves one to QUESTION your own personal life choices because FAILURE is not very easy to digest or intergrate within the human self.
I am not blaming anyone, and I am sure everyone on this board has mastered TAKING THE HIT ... of Self-Responsibility for all your personal life choices.
If anything... that tends to be the GREATEST TEACHING at the schools. LOL
The only FRUIT tends to be the Channels getting RICH off of the home equity, businesses, money and weakness of others.
The CRIME is SELF-RESPONSIBILITY..... and very hard to litigate because the PRODUCT has NEVER been proven to date.
It is like a bad marriage we want to BELIVE and we give them chance after chance to PROVE it problem is... the prince is still a brilliant Frog that comes to Inspire the others... at the same time POINTING the finger of WHY you are un-successfull .... YOU HAVE THE PROBLEM when it does not Work... and THEY get the CREDIT when it does.
It seems all very sick.... Psycho Psychic...Sicko Sicsychic. Whatever it is there are masses left in ruin... picking up the pieces as they move on.
But then again, manyh things in this world are very sick.. perhaps it is a reflection of our world.
Yet, today, the wind blows, the oceans moves, the flowers bloom, and the birds fly and tweet...un-moved by all our ramblings.
Personally, just like so many people on this message board, I was a success long long before any of these groups.
I Lost Everything and was Homeless at some point in my life.
But, I again, have turned everything around and again very finicially successfull.
I have one POWER within myself that was given to me as a child from my living dad , my father, god rest his soul, ... forever as a child he told me so many time... YOU CAN GO ANYWHERE AND MAKE MONEY...
And that one STATEMENT, had been proven to me over and over again many times.
I would say, that has been my MAGIC within me, to Ascend when I was on the street and homeless... as well as having a few angels helping me get my ATTITUDE back.
ATTITUDE for me has been everythng.
I can not imagine others, who did not have some STATEMENT OF POWER, that keeps them going on and on.
I left RSE, and posted it in several posts. Before I left, I DID see up close and personal the two people read through cards. They're being tested by the NOETIC institute, but it's certain NOT due to RAMTHAT. It's due to their ability within themselves. We had many sessions at the school (at the event when I knew I was NOT going back) where a lot more emphasis was placed on focusing and seeing through the smiley-faced cards. I suspect because it does become easier to do when one initiates the part of the brain responsible for this ability by the good old hard way - practice. My partners and I did the cards differently than the way we were instructed. We decided, instead of trying to see one card at a time, we stacked about ten, and concentrated. We didn't write anything down until and if we saw something. I began to see the shadows, in the stack of ten cards, and even though I didn't get them in their exact order, I got 8 out of 10 correct. Of course, I didn't go forward at the school with this, and give them credit, nor did we do it the way they instructed. But we were able to see many of the cards in our small stack, just a shadow appearing in the corner of the card for me - it would keep switching and each time it did, I wrote it down for my partners. So I think it's an ability either we all have or some have, and RSE just figured out how to package and exploit it, and the more people they produce who can see through the cards, the higher RSE's numbers they will claim as "success," since "blue body" certainly doesn't seem to be curing the masses!
I'm sure there are people who do it as a parlor trick. I was right there and we shuffled cards, for these two people. I'm in NO way supporting RSE, just saying this is an ability we can better develop, if you want to spend 12 hours a day starting at the cards. Then again, I had this 'intuition' way before RSE, so maybe I was starting to awaken it further. Too much 'real' life is going on now. Maybe one day I'll really sit down and spend time with the cards for fun, but right now, there are more important things in life. If i DO, RSE gets no credit, because it would be me or us who develop this or enhance it.
The other results? Pfui. I can focus until kingdom come, without hearing a phone ring, and did that repeatedly in 100+ weather out there, and in cold weather with the lovely creek at the end, and yeah, found my card- but certainly not everytime. I think it's a "feeling" go by and not anything to do with RSE. The "focus" they induce is an entranced state, open for any kind of suggestion and subliminals. It's just a repackaging, brainwashing, indoctrination and a lot of smoke and mirrors onstage. "Oh my heck!" - uh, yeah, JRZ-forgot which one she was!
Yes, Gabe. DEBBIE WORKED VERY HARD TO SEE THROUGH THE CARDS. That is what is working; the old-fashioned way, not with "instant manifestation." RSE does NOT follow through with providing statistics. The "testimonials" I heard as to healing were not anything I would call a "miracle." There is no one from the outside to document it; it's within the person's "mind." So perhaps there is a "placebo effect" going on, of course, we couldn't get stats on that either. For a group that claims to have stats, they certainly will not part with them.
This is how the "documented healings" are ah, documented? A teacher or JZR will ask, if you've been "healed" stand up. Then she asks another question, how many got their remote views, stand up. Then, how many got their cards, stand up. Then how many got a bale of hay or target in archery, stand up. How many - it goes on until you have nearly the entire arena standing up. That is not "documentation." The other manner is when people were asked (when there was prestigious guest speaker from Harvard - I shuddered in embarrassment wondering what this guy thought, because when the staff member asked for "anyone who has had a healing to come up to the stage and describe it" - there were some pretty odd testimonials. First off, it's a different climate from where many people live. So environmental factors present in their homes causing allergies, sinusitis, headaches - might not be present at RSE in the arena.
Also, one person with migraines claimed to "feel better" after having a headache until "R" appeared and called them on the field - but what happened to this person when they got home? If the headaches came back, well then, RSE teaches it's of the student's creation. Pfui.
Another woman went up to the stage (I posted this elsewhere). With the Harvard guy in attendance after his talk on black holes/time travel, this woman went up to the stage to report her "healing" - WHICH CONSISTED: "I was studying the sky last night and the spaceship aliens took me aboard and did surgery on my intestines and now I am healed." I mean, REALLY? Prove it, RSE. Show us the stats; we've already seen where the money goes.
So these "healings" are simply "standing" up or testimonials, and no outside objective authority or health professional (a health professional in the school will likely not have their critical thinking in place - but - spaceship aliens? Is this what we're talking about as healing? Get real. I mean, really get real and take back your life. If something is happening, it's only because the people themselves have done it ON THEIR OWN. How dare RSE claim credit for it.
Ramtha (TM) even claims credit for the visions at Fatima via his "spacebrothers" spaceship. Well my, my - maybe all that exists is "RamthaT, and we're all "figments" of his "imagination" with "imaginations of our own."
NOT.
Hi Gabe,
Thanks for having the courage to post here and engage in a civil discussion.
I was wondering, If the people you mentioned who had been objectively tested and found to do what you stated, why they have not applied for James Randi's standing offer of 1 million dollars to anyone who could perform a feat such as you have mentioned (for all I know it could be up to 2 million or more by now) You can google his name and find out about his challange as far as I know to date no one has collected on it.
You may even want to ask them if you can submit them and collect 10% for yourself!!! Keep us up to date on your progress should you submit them, if they should happen to win the dough I will be regretful I did not submit them myself!!
**jzr stated on a wineceremony that one serious toast with her gives you the 200years.
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Has any one there who toasted to 200 years DIED?
So many things were said that DID NOT HAPPEN...
When it does not happen the SCAM is, you changed the time line or focused on a different outcome.
There will NEVER be prof because with the addition of these types of statements... anything is ok or not ok.
Ultimately, all things can be explaned away and there fore no proof is required.
It is wierd how ouw human mind sort of fills in the blanks to justify ANY position you wish to take.
