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Scientology

Yelm or Clearwater ,FL or southern
California?
just change the vernacular to
"why did you create this? You are full of
self doubt."

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6558888132594328634

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this is somewhat amusing (if it weren't so true)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hafQlSf-Txg&mode=related&search=

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continued:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XKrj6ZYdTc&NR=1

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Yikes Tree…
That last video one was a real doozy…..

Here’s another on Scientology,
1995 - Hidden cameras go inside the London Scientology Organization.

Link…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rD9bCdHqU3s

The biggest identity theft organizations in the world are Cults.

David

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Those links are certainly eye-opening, especially when one relates them to how things are often handled at RSE. Still, I think they're almost tame compared to this (I believe most recent) Scientology documentary in 4 parts by the BBC:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3pG49lg5AU&mode=related&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnG--NCL4KI&mode=related&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGecZssWc5M&mode=related&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gv8IQ0Z_G_U&mode=related&search=

It's about 30 minutes in total but if you get to the end, there is a part where the BBC reporter actually looses his temper (which was the Scientology guys' goal all along) and as a result of his reaction, he and the network (in my opinion, unfortunately) later publicly apologized for his outburst. I say unfortunately because no apology should be needed for the most natural of human reactions, which is rage when one is obviously being baited, berated and provoked. I don't know if you noticed, but John Sweeney was never even allowed to finish a sentence. So many cult tactics in plain sight here, it's quite a lesson.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BH3o94rRZk

Everything you ever wanted to know about Scientology

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If you fail at any lawsuits, just buy the opposing network.

Scientology takes over the Cult Awareness network.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoASMyv9Cek

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you think that you understand scientology by watching a few minutes video-clips? you want to find a cult more dangerous than the hypocritical society or ignorant societies? there is NO! want to graduate from some kind of new age beginner to complete ignorance? study both sides and always trust yourself – after you did your lots of homeworks!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HptefbTrzMU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dMjwuAk7YQ
http://video.google.de/videoplay?docid=7312353791374224600
http://video.google.de/videoplay?docid=-9103388606880958020
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VabdQPH7W8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_w-YWwC1lI

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understanding one cult qualifies for shure understanding the other.the only difference is the size of the group.what would be with klein as major?how agressive would recruit jz if she had a bigger army?hope there is no more need for emf than now because of growing rse follower numbers.great posts in the last weeks.

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Holy cults, Batman!
ex-
awesome info.
Go Tory!

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"understanding one cult qualifies for shure understanding the other."

I could not agree more.
I think Tory is right, if it were not for the internet, and Xenu.com and enlightenmefree.com and windsofchange.com etc, it might be a slower recovery process all the while
the leaders raking in more and more
$$ and more people's minds being scrambled.

eeh-gad....the thought of Steve Klein
running Yelm, and now barking at the city
council, and sticking his nose into the
Clearwood Cell Tower is enough to make
one gag. He can write all the letters to the editor he wants. I don't care if he was CEO of the US. Thank god the locals see through this.

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Tory on the March
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFlM9bwTkpg&mode=related&search=

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I love the letter L ittle Ron Hubbard wrote to his wife when he started it all. "I been poping red and drinking rum and I have found the way".

If members would only read Hubbard's ref's and think for themselves they'd hear his own words "The rules of scientology don't apply to me; I'm the game-maker and not subject to the rules. People in the game are"

"Around this time he was invited to address a science fiction group in Newark hosted by the writer, Sam Moskowitz. `Writing for a penny a word is ridiculous,' he told the meeting. `If a man really wanted to make a million dollars, the best way to do it would be start his own religion.'

Hubbard did take a college course in molecular and atomic physics, which he flunked. He served in the Navy, but Navy records do not indicate he saw combat or was ever wounded. He was discharged and later given a 40-percent disability pension because of an ulcer, arthritis and other ailments. About this time he was petitioning the Veterans Administration for psychiatric care to treat "long periods of moroseness and suicidal inclinations." He was also arrested for petty theft in connection with checks. When he wrote to the FBI that communist spies were after him, an agent attached a note to one of his letters: "Make 'appears mental' card."

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I do so hope I'm on the correct thread in response to Hubbard betting $1 on creating a religion? One thing that always rolled through my mind when I'd hear about this "S" group, was Hubbard's being a sci-fi writer. I remember telling my spouse, I bet that guy started the whole thing just to see if he could, as in the entire thing was a joke or prank.

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For the sociopath.. the lives of others are no more than a plaything to be used and discarded,
much like an alcoholic smashing an empty wine bottle…
For the sociopath… the lives of others are a disposable commodity, a joke, a prank,
the stupid folkies or fluffies...
Behind their charming smartness is a sickness so cunning and heartless as to be incomprehensible to society,
they will draw families, religions and nations into mutual annihilation while secretly reveling and feeding from its aftermath,
yet proclaim themselves the saviors of humanity from within a razor wire cult grandstand.

They are criminals.

David.


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Scientology Faces Criminal Charges

The Associated Press:
By CONSTANT BRAND
BRUSSELS, Belgium (AP) — A Belgian prosecutor on Tuesday recommended that the U.S.-based Church of Scientology stand trial for fraud and extortion, following a 10-year investigation that concluded the group should be labeled a criminal organization.
Scientology said it would fight the criminal charges recommended by investigating prosecutor Jean-Claude Van Espen, who said that up to 12 unidentified people should face charges.
Van Espen's probe also concluded that Scientology's Brussels-based Europe office and its Belgian missions conducted unlawful practices in medicine, violated privacy laws and used illegal business contracts, said Lieve Pellens, a spokeswoman at the Federal Prosecutors Office.
"They also face charges of being ... a criminal organization," Pellens said in a telephone interview.
An administrative court will decide whether to press charges against the Scientologists.
In a statement, Scientology's Europe office accused the prosecutor of hounding the organization and said it would contest the charges.
"For the last 10 years, the prosecutor has been using the media, trying to damage the reputation of the Church of Scientology and not being able to put a case in court," Scientology said. "As a consequence, this created a climate of intolerance and discrimination" in Belgium.
It added that the prosecutor's recommendations suggested Scientology was guilty even before a court could hear the charges, making it "difficult for the Church of Scientology to recover and properly defend (itself) before the court."
Scientology has been active in Belgium for nearly three decades. In 2003, it opened an international office near the headquarters of the European Union to lobby for its right to be recognized as an official religious group, a status it does not enjoy in Belgium.
A Belgian parliamentary committee report in 1997 labeled Scientology a sect and investigations were launched into the group's finances and practices, such as the personality tests conducted on new members.
Investigators have spent the past decade trying to determine how far Scientology went in recruiting converts after numerous complaints were filed with police by ex-members alleging they'd been the victims of intimidation and extortion.
Justice officials seized financial records, correspondence, bank statements and other papers in their decade-long probe to track the flow of money to Scientology. Police also raided the offices of several consultancy firms linked to the Church of Scientology.
Pellens said that prosecutors expect Scientology to mount a strong legal challenge to the charges at a court hearing, which could come in the next two to three months. She acknowledged that could delay the case for years.
Belgium, Germany and other European countries have been criticized by the State Department for labeling Scientology as a cult or sect and enacting laws to restrict its operations.
The German government considers Scientology a commercial enterprise that takes advantage of vulnerable people.
The Los Angeles-based Church of Scientology, which is seeking to expand in Europe and be recognized as a legitimate religion, teaches that technology can expand the mind and help solve problems. The church, founded in 1954, counts actors Tom Cruise and John Travolta among its 10 million members.


Link..The Associated Press:

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gDbHIiu78StkRGSY4VEMRVqtlfXA

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Apparent double suicide linked to “paranoia” about Scientology

The apparent “double suicide” of a New York couple leaves friends in the art world “shocked,” “confounded and disturbed” reports the Los Angeles Times.

Jeremy Blake (35) and Theresa Duncan (40) were considered a “glamorous, intellectual couple, ” but in the wake of what appears to be two suicides, there are more questions than answers.

On July 10th Duncan was found dead, an apparent suicide.

One week after her death Blake was seen “wandering into the ocean.” He is now presumed dead. His wallet and a suicide note were found near the beach.

Blake was a rising artist reportedly “well on his way to bona fide star status with museums.”

Duncan was according to reviews “brilliant,” an accomplished woman [...]

http://www.rickross.com/

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Lisa mcpherson in yelm?yes she dident die but:she went to her minimal housing to do diciplines.forgot to eat and drink.her landlord found her after several days brought her to the hospital.she got saved.after beeing a very active peorson she lives a secluded live.it is hard to talk to her and she seems not to be there is what i heard about her condition now.than there was the man with sevire hepatitis who went to the event to do bluebodyhealing.maby he could have been saved not going to the hospital?