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Does JZ use indirect suggestion techniques?

Milton Erickson developed the hypnotic techniques of indirect suggestion which is to say that a person does not consciously realize s/he is being hypnotized. As I was reading Wikipedia's entry describing his life and work I was interested to read a quote attributed to him.

"I was ****ed if I would die without seeing one more sunset."

While attending RSE I heard "Ramtha" say many times, "When a person is on their deathbed what becomes most important is living to see one more sunrise."

This suggests to me that JZ studied Erickson's work. What do you think?

Milton H. Erickson
Born 5th December 1901
Aurum, Nevada
Died 25th March 1980
Phoenix, Arizona
Occupation psychiatrist and psychotherapist
Spouse Married to Elizabeth Erickson
Milton Hyland Erickson, MD (* 5th December 1901 in Aurum, Nevada, † 25th March 1980 in Phoenix, Arizona) was an American psychiatrist specializing in medical hypnosis and family therapy. He was founding president of the American Society for Clinical Hypnosis and a fellow of the American Psychiatric Association, the American Psychological Association, and the American Psychopathological Association.

He is noted for:

His often unconventional approach to psychotherapy, such as described in the book Uncommon Therapy, by Jay Haley, and the book Hypnotherapy: An Exploratory Casebook, by Milton H. Erickson and Ernest L. Rossi (1979, New York: Irvington Publishers, Inc.)
his extensive use of therapeutic metaphor and story as well as hypnosis
coining the term Brief Therapy for his approach of addressing therapeutic changes in relatively few sessions
his use of interventions that influenced the strategic therapy and family systems therapy practitioners beginning in the 1950s including Virginia Satir and Gregory Bateson
his conceptualization of the unconscious as highly separate from the conscious mind, with its own awareness, interests, responses, and learnings. For Erickson, the unconscious mind was creative, solution-generating, and often positive.
his ability to "utilize" anything about a patient to help them change, including their beliefs, favorite words, cultural background, personal history, or even their neurotic habits.
His influence on Neuro-linguistic Programming (NLP), which was in part based upon his working methods .
Contents [hide]
1 Personal History
2 Trance and The Unconscious Mind
3 Indirect Techniques
4 Confusion Technique
5 The Handshake Induction
6 Resistance
7 Ericksonian Therapy
8 Shocks and ordeals
9 Influences
10 Books
11 See also
12 References
13 External links

[edit] Personal History
Erickson's personal history is remarkable, and he frequently drew upon his own experiences to provide examples of the power of the unconscious mind. He was largely self-taught and a great many of his anecdotal and autobiographical teaching stories are collected by Sydney Rosen in the book My Voice Will Go With You. Erickson identified many of even his earliest personal experiences as hypnotic or autohypnotic.

Erickson grew up in Lowell, Wisconsin in a modest farming family, and intended to become a farmer like his father. He was a late developer.

A lot of people were worried because I was four years old and didn't talk, and I had a sister two years younger than me who talked. And many people got distressed because I was a four-year-old boy who couldn't talk. My mother said, comfortably, 'When the time arrives, then he will talk.'
- My Voice Will Go With You
The confidence placed in him by his parents was well appreciated. Erickson took this delay as evidence that the unconscious mind takes its own time to learn things, and that his mother recognised that too. He did learn, of course, but not without difficulty.

As a six-year-old child Erickson was apparently handicapped with dyslexia. Try as he might, his teacher could not convince him that a “3” and an “m” were not the same. One day the teacher wrote a 3 and then an m by guiding his hand with her own. Still Erickson could not recognize the difference. Suddenly he experienced a spontaneous visual hallucination in which he saw the difference in a blinding flash of light.
Erickson: Can you image how bewildering it is? Then one day, it’s so amazing, there was a sudden burst of atomic light. I saw the m and I saw the 3. The m was standing on its legs and the 3 was on its side with the legs sticking out. The blinding flash of light! It was so bright! It cast into oblivion every other thing. There was a blinding flash of light and in the center of that terrible outburst of light were the 3 and the m.
Rossi: You really saw a blinding flash of light? You saw it out there, you’re not just using a metaphor?
E: Yes, and it obscured every other thing except a 3 and an m.
R: Were you aware you were in an altered state? Did you, as a child, wonder about that funny experience?
E: That’s the way you learn things.
-From Autohypnotic Experiences of Milton H. Erickson (Milton H. Erickson and Ernest L. Rossi), The American Journal of Clinical Hypnosis, July. 1977 20, 36-54, reprinted in Collected Papers Volume 1.
In the same paper, quoted here, Erickson recalls many formative experiences with these 'blinding flashes of light', which Rossi describes as 'creative moments'.

The most blinding, dazzling flash of light occurred in my sophomore year of high school. I had the nickname in grade school and high school, “Dictionary,” because I spent so much time reading the dictionary. One noon, just after the noon dismissal bell rang, I was in my usual chair reading the dictionary in the back of the room. Suddenly a blinding, dazzling flash of light occurred because I just learned how to use the dictionary. Up to that moment in looking up a word, I started at the first page and went through every column, page after page until I reached the word. In that blinding flash of light I realized that you use the alphabet as an ordered system for looking up a word...I don’t know why it took me so long. Did my unconscious purposely withhold that knowledge because of the immense amount of education I got from reading the dictionary?
- ibid.
At age 17, he contracted polio, and was so severely paralysed that the doctors believed he would die. On the critical night where he was at his worst, he had another formative 'autohypnotic experience'.

E: As I lay in bed that night, I overheard the three doctors tell my parents in the other room that their boy would be dead in the morning. I felt intense anger that anyone should tell a mother her boy would be dead by morning. My mother then came in with as serene a face as can be. I asked her to arrange the dresser, push it up against the side of the bed at an angle. She did not understand why, she thought I was delirious. My speech was difficult. But at that angle by virtue of the mirror on the dresser I could see through the doorway, through the west window of the other room. I was ****ed if I would die without seeing one more sunset. If I had any skill in drawing, I could still sketch that sunset.
R: Your anger and wanting to see another sunset was a way you kept yourself alive through that critical day in spite of the doctors’ predictions. But why do you call that an autohypnotic experience?
E: I saw that vast sunset covering the whole sky. But I know there was also a tree there outside the window, but I blocked it out.
R: You blocked it out? It was that selective perception that enables you to say you were in an altered state?
E: Yes, I did not do it consciously. I saw all the sunset, but I didn’t see the fence and large boulder that were there. I blocked out everything except the sunset. After I saw the sunset, I lost consciousness for three days. When I finally awakened, I asked my father why they had taken out that fence, tree, and boulder. I did not realize I had blotted them out when I fixed my attention so intensely on the sunset. Then, as I recovered and became aware of my lack of abilities, I wondered how I was going to earn a living. I had already published a paper in a national agricultural journal. "Why Young Folks Leave the Farm." I no longer had the strength to be a farmer, but maybe I could make it as a doctor.
- ibid.
Recovering, still almost entirely lame in bed, and unable to speak, he became strongly aware of the significance of non-verbal communication - body language, tone of voice and the way that these non-verbal expressions often directly contradicted the verbal ones.

I had polio, and I was totally paralyzed, and the inflammation was so great that I had a sensory paralysis too. I could move my eyes and my hearing was undisturbed. I got very lonesome lying in bed, unable to move anything except my eyeballs. I was quarantined on the farm with seven sisters, one brother, two parents, and a practical nurse. And how could I entertain myself? I started watching people and my environment. I soon learned that my sisters could say "no" when they meant "yes." And they could say "yes" and mean "no" at the same time. They could offer another sister an apple and hold it back. And I began studying nonverbal language and body language.
I had a baby sister who had begun to learn to creep. I would have to learn to stand up and walk. And you can imagine the intensity with which I watched as my baby sister grew from creeping to learning how to stand up.
- My Voice Will Go With You
He began to recall 'body memories' of the muscular activity of his own body. By concentrating on these memories, he slowly began to regain control of parts of his body to the point where he was eventually again able to talk and use his arms. Still unable to walk, he decided to train his body further, by embarking -alone- on a thousand mile canoe trip with only a few dollars. After this grueling trip, he was able to walk with a cane. This experience may have contributed to Erickson's technique of using 'ordeals' in a therapeutic context. (See below).

Erickson was an avid medical student, and was so curious about and engaged with psychiatry that he got a psychology degree while he was still studying medicine.

Much later in life, in his fifties, he developed post-polio syndrome, characterized by pain and muscle weakness caused by the chronic over-use of partially-paralyzed muscles. The condition left him even more severely paralysed, but having been through the experience once before, he now had a strategy for recovering some use of his muscles, which he employed again. After this second recovery, he was obliged to use a wheelchair, and suffered chronic pain, which he controlled with self-hypnosis:

It usually takes me an hour after I awaken to get all the pain out. It used to be easier when I was younger. I have more muscle and joint difficulties now... Recently the only way I could get control over the pain was by sitting in bed, pulling a chair close, and pressing my larynx against the back of the chair. That was very uncomfortable: But it was discomfort I was deliberately creating.
In the early 1950s, anthropologist Gregory Bateson involved Erickson as a consultant as part of his extensive research on communication. The two had met earlier, after Bateson and Margaret Mead had called upon him to analyse the films Mead had made of trance states in Bali. Through Bateson, Erickson met Jay Haley, Richard Bandler and John Grinder, amongst others, and had a profound influence on them all. They went on to write several books about him.

In 1973, Jay Haley published 'Uncommon Therapy', which for the first time brought Erickson and his approaches to the attention of those outside the clinical hypnosis community. His fame and reputation spread rapidly, and so many people wished to meet him that he began holding teaching seminars, which continued until his death.

Milton H. Erickson died in March 1980, aged 78, leaving four sons, four daughters, and a lasting legacy to the worlds of psychology, psychiatry, psychotherapy, pedagogics and communications.

[edit] Trance and The Unconscious Mind
Erickson believed that the unconscious mind was always listening, and that, whether or not the patient was in trance, suggestions could be made which would have a hypnotic influence, as long as those suggestions found some resonance at the unconscious level. You can be aware of this, or you can be completely oblivious that something is happening. Now, Erickson would see if the patient would respond to one or another kind of indirect suggestion, and allow the unconscious mind to actively participate in the therapeutic process. In this way, what seemed like a normal conversation might induce a hypnotic trance, or a therapeutic change in the subject. It should be noted that "[Erickson's] conception of the unconscious is definitely not the one held by Freud."

Erickson was an irrepressible practical joker, and it was not uncommon for him to slip indirect suggestions into all kinds of situations, including in his own books, papers, lectures and seminars.

Erickson also believed that it was even appropriate for the therapist to go into trance.

I go into trances so that I will be more sensitive to the intonations and inflections of my patients' speech. And to enable me to hear better, see better.
Erickson maintained that trance is a common, everyday occurrence. For example, when waiting for buses and trains, reading or listening, or even being involved in strenuous physical exercise, it's quite normal to become immersed in the activity and go into a trance state, removed from any other irrelevant stimuli. These states are so common and familiar that most people do not consciously recognise them as hypnotic phenomena.

The same situation is in evidence in everyday life, however, whenever attention is fixated with a question or an experience of the amazing, the unusual, or anything that holds a person’s interest. At such moments people experience the common everyday trance; they tend to gaze off—to the right or left, depending upon which cerebral hemisphere is most dominant (Baleen, 1969) —and get that “faraway” or “blank” look. Their eyes may actually close, their bodies tend to become immobile (a form of catalepsy), certain reflexes (e.g., swallowing, respiration, etc.) may be suppressed, and they seem momentarily oblivious to their surroundings until they have completed their inner search on the unconscious level for the new idea, response, or frames of reference that will restabilize their general reality orientation. We hypothesize that in everyday life consciousness is in a continual state of flux between the general reality orientation and the momentary microdynamics of trance...

- Erickson & Rossi: Two-Level Communication and the Microdynamics of Trance and Suggestion, The American Journal of Clinical Hypnosis, 1976 Reprinted in Collected Papers Vol.1

Because Erickson expected trance states to occur naturally and frequently, he was prepared to exploit them therapeutically, even when the patient was not present with him in the consulting room. He also discovered many techniques for how to increase the likelihood that a trance state would occur. He developed both verbal and non-verbal techniques, and pioneered the idea that the common experiences of wonderment, engrossment and confusion are, in reality, just kinds of trance. (These phenomena are of course central to many spiritual and religious disciplines, and are regularly employed by evangelists, cult leaders and holy men of all kinds).

Clearly there are a great many kinds of trance. Many people are familiar with the idea of a 'deep' trance, and earlier in his career Erickson was a pioneer in researching the unique and remarkable phenomena that are associated with that state, spending many hours at a time with individual test subjects, deepening the trance.

That a trance may be 'light' or 'deep' suggest a one dimensional continuum of trance depth, but Erickson would often work with multiple trances in the same patient, for example suggesting that the hypnotised patient to behave 'as if awake', blurring the line between the hypnotic and 'awake' state.

Erickson believed there are multiple states that may be utilized. This resonates with Charles Tart's idea (put forward in the book 'Waking Up') that all states of consciousness are trances, and that what we call 'normal' waking consciousness is just a 'consensus trance'. NLP also makes central use of the idea of changing state, without it explicitly being a hypnotic phenomenon.

[edit] Indirect Techniques
Where 'classical' hypnosis is authoritative and direct, and often encounters resistance in the subject, Erickson's approach is permissive, accommodating and indirect. For example, where a classical hypnotist might say "you are going into a trance", an Ericksonian hypnotist would be more likely to say "you can comfortably learn how to go into a trance". In this way, he provides an opportunity for the subject to accept the suggestions they are most comfortable with, at their own pace, and with an awareness of the benefits. The subject knows they are not being hustled, and takes full ownership of, and participation in their transformation.

Erickson maintained that it was not possible to consciously instruct the unconscious mind, and that authoritarian suggestions were likely to be met with resistance. The unconscious mind responds to openings, opportunities, metaphors, symbols, and contradictions. Effective hypnotic suggestion, then, should be 'artfully vague', leaving space for the subject to fill in the gaps with their own unconscious understandings - even if they do not consciously grasp what is happening. The skilled hypnotherapist constructs these gaps of meaning in a way most suited to the individual subject - in a way which is most likely to produce the desired change.

For example the authoritative "you will stop smoking" is likely to find less leverage on the unconscious level than "you can become a non-smoker". The first is a direct command, to be obeyed or ignored (and notice that it draws attention to the act of smoking), the second is an opening, an invitation to possible lasting change, without pressure, and which is less likely to raise resistance.

Richard Bandler and John Grinder identified this kind of 'artful vagueness' as a central characteristic of their 'Milton Model', a systematic attempt to codify Erickson's hypnotic language patterns.

[edit] Confusion Technique
In all my techniques, almost all, there is a confusion.
Erickson & Rossi - Hypnotic Realities
A confused person has their conscious mind busy and occupied, and is very much inclined to draw upon unconscious learnings to make sense of things. A confused person is in a trance of their own making - and therefore goes readily into that trance without resistance. Confusion might be created by ambiguous words, complex or endless sentences, pattern interruption or a myriad other techniques to incite transderivational searches.

James Braid, who coined the term 'hypnosis,' claimed that focused attention ("look into my eyes...") was essential for creating hypnotic trances, indeed, his thesis was that hypnosis was in essence a state of extreme focus. But it can be difficult for people wracked by pain, angst or suspicion to focus on anything at all. Thus other techniques for inducing trance become important, or as Erickson explained:

...long and frequent use of the confusion technique has many times effected exceedingly rapid hypnotic inductions under unfavourable conditions such as acute pain of terminal malignant disease and in persons interested but hostile, aggressive, and resistant...

[edit] The Handshake Induction
Confusion is the basis of Erickson's famous hypnotic handshake. Many actions are learned and operate as a single "chunk" of behavior: shaking hands and tying shoelaces being two classic examples. If the behavior is diverted or frozen midway, the person literally has no mental space for this - he is stopped in the middle of unconsciously executing a behavior that hasn't got a "middle". The mind responds by suspending itself in trance until either something happens to give a new direction, or it "snaps out". A skilled hypnotist can often use that momentary confusion and suspension of normal processes to induce trance quickly and easily.

By interrupting the pattern of a 'normal' handshake in some way, the hypnotist causes the subject to wonder what is going on. If the handshake continues to develop in a way which is out-of-keeping with expectations, a simple, non-verbal trance is created, which may then be reinforced or utilized by the hypnotist. All these responses happen naturally and automatically without telling the subject to consciously focus on an idea.

The various descriptions of Erickson's hypnotic handshake, including his own very detailed accounts, indicate that a certain amount of improvisation is involved, and that watching and acting upon the subject's responses is key to a successful outcome. The most important thing is that the 'normal' handshake is subverted in such a way to cause puzzlement, which may then be built upon.

Initiation: When I begin by shaking hands, I do so normally. The "hypnotic touch" then begins when I let loose. The letting loose becomes transformed from a firm grip into a gentle touch by the thumb, a lingering drawing away of the little finger, a faint brushing of the subject's hand with the middle finger - just enough vague sensation to attract the attention. As the subject gives attention to the touch of your thumb, you shift to a touch with your little finger. As your subject's attention follows that, you shift to a touch with your middle finger and then again to the thumb.
This arousal of attention is merely an arousal without constituting a stimulus for a response.
The subject's withdrawal from the handshake is arrested by this attention arousal, which establishes a waiting set, and expectancy.
Then almost, but not quite simultaneously (to ensure separate neural recognition), you touch the undersurface of the hand (wrist) so gently that it barely suggests an upward push. This is followed by a similar utterly slight downward touch, and then I sever contact so gently that the subject does not know exactly when - and the subject's hand is left going neither up nor down, but cataleptic.
Termination: If you don't want your subject to know what you are doing, you simply distract their attention, usually by some appropriate remark, and casually terminate. Sometimes they remark, "What did you say? I got absentminded there for moment and wasn't paying attention to anything." This is slightly distressing to the subjects and indicative of the fact that their attention was so focused and fixated on the peculiar hand stimuli that they were momentarily entranced so they did not hear what was said.
Utilisation: Any utilisation leads to increasing trance depth. All utilisation should proceed as a continuation of extension of the initial procedure. Much can be done nonverbally; for example, if any subjects are just looking blankly at me, I may slowly shift my gaze downward, causing them to look at their hand, which I touch and say "look at this spot.". This intensifies the trance state. Then, whether the subjects are looking at you or at their hand or just staring blankly, you can use your left hand to touch their elevated right hand from above or the side - so long as you merely give the suggestion of downward movement. Occasionally a downward nudge or push is required. If a strong push or nudge is required, check for anaesthesia.
- Erickson & Rossi - Hypnotic Realities
Richard Bandler was a keen proponent of the handshake induction, and developed his own variant, which is commonly taught in NLP workshops.

Any habitual pattern which is interrupted unexpectedly will cause sudden and light trance. The handshake is a particularly good pattern to interrupt because the formality of a handshake is a widely understood set of social rules. Since everyone knows that it would be impolite to comment on the quality of a handshake, regardless of how strange it may be, the subject is obliged to embark on an inner search (known as a transderivational search, a universal and compelling type of trance) to identify the meaning or purpose of the subverted pattern.

Re: Does JZ use indirect suggestion techniques?

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Re: Does JZ use indirect suggestion techniques?

[edit] Resistance
Erickson recognised that many people were intimidated by hypnosis and the therapeutic process, and took care to respect the special resistances of the individual patient. In the therapeutic process he said that "you always give the patient every opportunity to resist". Here are some more relevant quotes pertaining to resistance:

Whatever the behaviour offered by the subjects, it should be accepted and utilized to develop further responsive behaviour. Any attempt to "correct" or alter the subjects' behaviour, or to force them to do things they are not interested in, militates against trance induction and certainly deep trance experience.
If the patient can be led to accept one suggestion, they will more readily accept others. With resistant patients, it becomes necessary to find a suggestion that they can accept. Resistance is always important, and should always be respected, so if the resistance itself is encouraged, the patient is made to feel more comfortable, because they know that they are allowed to respond however they wish.

Many times, the apparently active resistance encountered in subjects is no more than an unconscious measure of testing the hypnotist's willingness to meet them halfway instead of trying to force them to act entirely in accord with his ideas.
Although the idea of working with resistance is essentially a hypnotic one, it goes beyond hypnosis and trance. In a typical example, a girl that bit her nails was told that she was cheating herself of really enjoying the nail biting. He encouraged her to let some of her nails grow a little longer before biting them, so that she really could derive the fullest pleasure from the activity. She decided to grow all of her nails long enough that she might really enjoy biting them, and then, after some days, she realised that she didn't want to bite them anyway.

[edit] Ericksonian Therapy
Erickson is most famous as a hypnotherapist, but his extensive research into and experience with hypnosis led him to develop an effective therapeutic technique. Many of these techniques are not explicitly hypnotic, but they are extensions of hypnotic strategies and language patterns. Erickson recognised that resistance to trance resembles resistance to change, and developed his therapeutic approach with that awareness.

Jay Haley identified several strategies, which appeared repeatedly in Erickson's therapeutic approach.

Encouraging Resistance - For Erickson, the classic therapeutic request to "tell me everything about..." was both aggressive and disrespectful, instead he would ask the resistant patient to withhold information and only to tell what they were really ready to reveal:
I usually say, "There are a number of things that you don't want me to know about, that you don't want to tell me. There are a lot of things about yourself that you don't want to discuss, therefore let's discuss those that you are willing to discuss." She has blanket permission to withhold anything and everything. But she did come to discuss things. And therefore she starts discussing this, discussing that. And it's always "Well, this is all right to talk about." And before she's finished, she has mentioned everything. And each new item - "Well, this really isn't so important that I have to withhold it. I can use the withholding permission for more important matters." Simply a hypnotic technique. To make them respond to the idea of withholding, and to respond to the idea of communicating.
-Transcription of Interview with Erickson quoted in Uncommon Therapy by Jay Haley.

Many people's reaction to a direction is to think "why should I?" or "You can't make me", called a polarity response because it motivates the subject to consider the polar opposite of the suggestion. The conscious mind recognizes negation in speech ("Don't do X") however the unconscious mind pays more attention to the "X" than the injunction "Don't do". Erickson used this as the basis for suggestions that deliberately played on negation and tonally marked the important wording, to provide that whatever the client did, it was beneficial: "You don't have to go into a trance, so you can easily wonder about what you notice no faster than you feel ready to become aware that your hand is slowly rising....."
Providing a Worse Alternative (The 'Double Bind') - Example: "Do you want to go into a trance now, or later?" The 'double bind' is a way of overloading the subject with two options, the acceptance of either of which represents acceptance of a therapeutic suggestion.
My first well-remembered intentional use of the double bind occurred in early boyhood. One winter day, with the weather below zero, my father led a calf out of the barn to the water trough. After the calf had satisfied its thirst, they turned back to the barn, but at the doorway the calf stubbornly braced its feet, and despite my father’s desperate pulling on the halter, he could not budge the animal. I was outside playing in the snow and, observing the impasse, began laughing heartily. My father challenged me to pull the calf into the barn. Recognizing the situation as one of unreasoning stubborn resistance on the part of the calf, I decided to let the calf have full opportunity to resist, since that was what it apparently wished to do. Accordingly I presented the calf with a double bind by seizing it by the tail and pulling it away from the barn, while my father continued to pull it inward. The calf promptly chose to resist the weaker of the two forces and dragged me into the barn.
-Varieties of Double Bind Erickson & Rossi, The American Journal of Clinical Hypnosis, January 1975.
Reprinted in 'Collected Papers' Volume 3.
Communicating by Metaphor - This is explored extensively in Sydney Rosen's 'My Voice Will Go With You', but a beautiful example is given in the first chapter of David Gordon's book Phoenix:
I was returning from high school one day and a runaway horse with a bridle on sped past a group of us into a farmer's yard looking for a drink of water. The horse was perspiring heavily. And the farmer didn't recognize it so we cornered it. I hopped on the horse's back. Since it had a bridle on, I took hold of the tick rein and said, "Giddy-up." Headed for the highway, I knew the horse would turn in the right direction. I didn't know what the right direction was. And the horse trotted and galloped along. Now and then he would forget he was on the highway and start into a field. So I would pull on him a bit and call his attention to the fact the highway was where he was supposed to be. And finally, about four miles from where I had boarded him, he turned into a farm yard and the farmer said, "So that's how that critter came back. Where did you find him?" I said, "About four miles from here." "How did you know you should come here?" I said, "I didn't know. The horse knew. All I did was keep his attention on the road."
Compare Erickson's metaphorical strategies with the teaching tales of the Sufis (those of Nasreddin eg.) and the Zen tradition of Koans, each also designed to act on the unconscious mind.
Encouraging a Relapse - To bypass simple short-lived 'obedience' which tends to lead to lapses in the absence of the therapist, Erickson would occasionally arrange for his patients to fail in their attempts to improve, for example by overreaching. Failure is part of life, and in that fragile time where the patient is learning to live, think and behave differently, a random failure can be catastrophic. Deliberately causing a relapse allowed Erickson to control the variables of that failure, and to cast it in a positive therapeutic light for the patient.
Encouraging a Response by Frustrating It - This paradoxical approach acts directly on the patient's own resistance to change. Obese patients are asked to gain weight, or in a family therapy session, a stubbornly silent family member is ignored until the frustration obliges them to blurt out some desperate truth. Once again, this approach has its roots in Erickson's hypnotic language patterns of the form "I don't want you to go into a trance yet".
Compare this with 'Prescribing the Symptom' (below).
Utilizing Space and Position - Hypnosis and therapy are experienced subjectively by the patient, and any part of their total experience can be used to reinforce an idea. The physical position or even the posture of the patient can be a significant part of the subjective experience. Manipulating these factors can contribute to a therapeutic transformation.
If I send someone out of the room - for example, the mother and child - I carefully move father from his chair and put him into mother's chair. Or if I send the child out, I might put mother in the child's chair, at least temporarily. Sometimes I comment on this by saying, 'As you sit where your son was sitting, you can think more clearly about him.' Or, 'If you sit where your husband sat, maybe it will give you somewhat of his view about me'. Over a series of interviews with an entire family, I shuffle them about, so that what was originally mother's chair is now where father is sitting. The family grouping remains, and yet that family grouping is being rearranged, which is what you are after when changing a family."
-Erickson quoted in Uncommon Therapy by Jay Haley.
This may be directly compared with Fritz Perls' use of an 'empty chair' as a context for imagined interactions (where the client was often invited to occupy the chair and thus take on the role of the person imagined to be sitting there); Bert Hellinger's approach, which requires the client to arrange family members (played by volunteers) in a row or pattern which matches the client's internal understanding, and then to reorganise the row; and Virginia Satir's work with tableaux and posture.
Emphasizing the Positive - Erickson was dyslexic as a boy, and was both colour blind and tone deaf throughout his life. He claimed that these sensory 'disabilities' helped him to focus on aspects of communication and behavior which most other people overlooked. This is a typical example of emphasizing the positive.
Erickson would often compliment the patient for a symptom, and would even encourage it, in very specific ways. In one amusing example, a woman whose parents-in-law caused her nauseous feelings in the gut every time they visited unexpectedly was 'taught' to puke spectacularly whenever the visits were especially inconvenient. Naturally the parents-in-law would always sympathetically help her clean up the vomit. Fairly soon, the annoying relatives started calling in advance before turning up, to see if she were 'well enough' to see them.
The subject of dozens of songs, 'emphasizing the positive' is a well known self-help strategy, and can be compared with 'positive reformulation' in Gestalt Therapy.
Prescribing the Symptom and Amplifying a Deviation - Very typically, Erickson would instruct his patients to actively and consciously perform the symptom that was bothering them (see the nailbiting example under #Resistance), usually with some minor or trivial deviation from the original symptom. In many cases, the deviation could be amplified and used as a 'wedge' to transform the whole behaviour.
INTERVIEWER: Suppose someone called you and said there was a kid, nineteen or twenty years old, who has been a very good boy, but all of a sudden this week he started walking around the neighborhood carrying a large cross. The neighbors are upset and the family's upset, and would you do something about it. How would you think about that as a problem? Some kind of bizarre behavior like that.
ERICKSON: Well, if the kid came in to see me, the first thing I would do would be to want to examine the cross. And I would want to improve it in a very minor way. As soon as I got the slightest minor change in it, the way would be open for a larger change. And pretty soon I could deal with the advantages of a different cross - he ought to have at least two. He ought to have at least three so be could make a choice each day of which one. It's pretty hard to express a psychotic pattern of behavior over an ever increasing number of crosses.
-Erickson quoted in Uncommon Therapy by Jay Haley.
Seeding Ideas - Hypnosis makes existing learnings more accessible. It's not realistic to suggest to someone that they do something they have never learned. For example, the suggestion "You will be able to carve marble like Michelangelo..." can have only limited impact on someone who has never had a chisel in their hands.
Certainly new patterns may be synthesised in a hypnotic state from existing (and perhaps forgotten) learnings, - and this is perhaps a good definition of hypnotherapy - but if there is no seed for the suggestions, the subject will not be able to respond effectively. Erickson would often ensure that the patients had been exposed to an idea, often in a metaphorical form (i.e. hidden from the conscious mind) in advance of utilizing it for a therapeutic purpose. He called this 'seeding ideas', and it can be observed to occur at many levels‚ both coarse and fine grained, in many of his case histories. In a simple example, the question "Have you ever been in a trance before?" seeds the idea that a trance is imminent - the presupposition inherent in the word before is "not now, but later".
Avoiding Self-Exploration - In common with most brief therapy practitioners, Erickson was entirely uninterested in analysing the patient's early psychological development. Occasionally in his case histories, he will briefly discuss the patient's background, but only as much as it pertains to the resources available to the patient in the present.
INTERVIEWER: You don't feel that exploring the past is particularly relevant? I'm always trying to get clear in my mind how much of the past I need to consider when doing brief therapy.
ERICKSON: You know, I had one patient this last July who had four or five years of psychoanalysis and got nowhere with it. And someone who knows her said, "How much attention did you give to the past?" I said, "You know, I completely forgot about that." That patient is, I think, a reasonably cured person. It was a severe washing compulsion, as much as twenty hours a day. I didn't go in to the cause or the etiology; the only searching question I asked was "When you get in the shower to scrub yourself for hours, tell me, do you start at the top of your head, or the soles of your feet, or in the middle? Do you wash from the neck down, or do you start with your feet and wash up? Or do you start with your head and wash down?"
INTERVIEWER: Why did you ask that?
ERICKSON: So that she knew I was really interested.
INTERVIEWER: So that you could join her in this?
ERICKSON: No, so that she knew I was really interested.
-Interview with Erickson quoted in Uncommon Therapy by Jay Haley.

[edit] Shocks and ordeals
Erickson is famous for pioneering indirect techniques, but his shock therapy tends to get less attention, perhaps because it is uncomfortable for us to hear such uncharacteristic stories about an inspirational and gentle healer. Nonetheless, Erickson was prepared to use psychological shocks and ordeals in order to achieve given results:

When the old gentleman asked if he could be helped for his fear of riding in an elevator, I told him I could probably scare the pants off him in another direction. He told me that nothing could be worse than his fear of an elevator.
The elevators in that particular building were operated by young girls, and I made special arrangements with one in advance. She agreed to cooperate and thought it would be fun. I went with the gentleman to the elevator. He wasn't afraid of walking into an elevator, but when it started to move it became an unbearable experience. So I chose an unbusy time and I had him walk in and out of the elevator, back in and out. Then at a point when we walked in, I told the girl to close the door and said, "Let's go up."
She went up one story and stopped in between floors. The gentleman started to yell, "What's wrong!" I said, "The elevator operator wants to kiss you." Shocked, the gentleman said, "But I'm a married man!" The girl said, "I don't mind that." She walked toward him, and he stepped back and said, "You start the elevator." So she started it. She went up to about the fourth floor and stopped it again between floors. She said, "I just have a craving for a kiss." He said, "You go about your business." He wanted that elevator moving, not standing still. She replied, "Well, let's go down and start all over again," and she began to take the elevator down. He said, "Not down, up!" since he didn't want to go through that all over again.
She started up and then stopped the elevator between floors and said, "Do you promise you'll ride down in my elevator with me when you're through work?" He said, "I'll promise anything if you promise not to kiss me." He went up in the elevator, relieved and without fear - of the elevator - and could ride one from then on.
-Erickson quoted in 'Uncommon Therapy' by Jay Haley.

[edit] Influences
One of his first students and developers of his work was Stephen Gilligan. Other important followers include Jay Haley and Jeffrey K. Zeig

Erickson was 'modeled' by Richard Bandler and John Grinder, the co-founders of Neuro-linguistic programming (NLP).

[edit] Books
Erickson was a prolific writer, often working in collaboration with others. His chief collaborator was Ernest L. Rossi. His books include:

Hypnotic Realities ISBN 0-8290-0112-3 (With Ernest L. Rossi)
Hypnotherapy - An Exploratory Casebook ISBN 0-8290-0244-8 (With Ernest L. Rossi)
Experiencing Hypnosis ISBN 0-8290-0246-4 (With Ernest L. Rossi)
The Practical Application of Medical and Dental Hypnosis ISBN 0-87630-570-2 (with Seymour Hershman and Irving I. Secter) (out of print)
Time Distortion in Hypnosis ISBN 1-899836-95-0 (With Linn F. Cooper)
His clinical papers have been collected into a four volume work:

Collected Papers on Hypnosis: Volume 1 - Nature of Hypnosis and Suggestion ISBN 0-8290-1206-0 (Ernest L. Rossi, Editor)
Collected Papers on Hypnosis: Volume 2 - Sensory, Perceptual and Psychophysiological Processes ISBN 0-8290-1207-9 (Ernest L. Rossi, Editor)
Collected Papers on Hypnosis: Volume 3 - Hypnotic Investigation of Psychodynamic Processes ISBN 0-8290-1208-7 (Ernest L. Rossi, Editor)
Collected Papers on Hypnosis: Volume 4 - Innovative Hypnotherapy ISBN 0-8290-1209-5 (Ernest L. Rossi, Editor)
- note, these four volumes are sometimes made available digitally under the misleading (and erroneous) name 'Complete Works'.

Some books collecting transcriptions of his lectures and seminars:

My Voice Will Go With You - The Teaching Stories of Milton H. Erickson ISBN 0-393-30135-4 (Sydney Rosen, Editor)
Seminars, Workshops and Lectures of Milton H. Erickson Volume 1 - Healing in Hypnosis ISBN 1-85343-405-1 (Margaret O. Ryan & Florence Sharp, Editors)
Seminars, Workshops and Lectures of Milton H. Erickson Volume 2 - Life Reframing in Hypnosis ISBN 0-8290-1581-7 (Florence Sharp, Editor)
Seminars, Workshops and Lectures of Milton H. Erickson Volume 3 - Mind-Body Communication in Hypnosis ISBN 0-8290-1805-0 (Ernest L. Rossi, Editor)
Other Works which collect specific parts of Erickson's output

The Wisdom of Milton H Erickson: The Complete Volume ISBN 1-904424-17-1 (Ronald A.Havens, Editor)
An Uncommon Casebook: Complete Clinical Work of Milton H.Erickson, M.D. ISBN 0-393-70101-8 (William Hudson O'Hanlon & Angela L. Hexum)
Many books have been written about Erickson and his techniques, which typically include extended citations from his papers, lectures and workshops, including:

Patterns of the Hypnotic Techniques of Milton H.Erickson: Volume 1 ISBN 1-55552-052-9, John Grinder & Richard Bandler
Patterns of the Hypnotic Techniques of Milton H.Erickson: Volume 2 ISBN 1-55552-053-7, John Grinder, Richard Bandler & Judith DeLozier
Milton H.Erickson (Key Figures in Counselling & Psychotherapy Series) ISBN 0-8039-7575-9 (Jeffrey K. Zeig & W. Michael Munion)
Uncommon Therapy: Psychiatric Techniques of Milton H.Erickson, M.D. ISBN 0-393-31031-0 (Jay Haley)
Phoenix: Therapeutic Patterns of Milton H.Erickson ISBN 0-916990-10-9 (David Gordon, Maribeth Meyers-Anderson)
Taproots: Underlying Principles of Milton Erickson's Therapy and Hypnosis ISBN 0-393-70031-3 (William Hudson O'Hanlon)

[edit] See also
Neuro-linguistic programming
List of NLP topics
Transderivational search
Double bind
George Lakoff (one of America's foremost linguists, also (like Erickson) a strong believer in the significance of metaphor)

[edit] References
^ Gorton, Gregg E (2005). Milton Hyland Erickson The American Journal of Psychiatry. Washington. Vol.162, Iss. 7; pg. 1255, 1 pgs
^ Andre M. Weitzenhoffer (1976) Introduction/forward in Hypnotic Realities Erickson & Rossi

[edit] External links
The Erickson Foundation is part of an international organization that carries on his work and promotes the Erickson approach to therapy.
NLPschedule.com involves a coding of many of the patterns Milton Erickson used from the perspective of linguistics and semantics.
French Académy of Ericksonian Hypnosis Many information about Milton Erickon and his work.



Re: Does JZ use indirect suggestion techniques?


Great post!! In my opinion the answer is yes. I personally believe that the gal reads and has read much in the way of hypnosis. The whole idea of her and the big guy using the term the observer smelled to me similar to some of Ericksons work which was carried on by Hilgard especially in his theory of "the hidden observer"

Both he and Erickson found that there was an awareness in their subjects that hypnosis would not effect. Hilgard went on to develop his theory of "the hidden observer" From what I have heard of JZ/r in speaking of the observer it reeks of convoluting Hilgards work.

Good work EWO!!!

Re: Does JZ use indirect suggestion techniques?

Thanks for the connection between Hilgard and "the Observer." I will check Hilgard out. One of JZ/"Ramtha's" "teachings" which I never understood was "The God Within."

"Your God only knows what you know," JZ/"Ramtha" would say. "Your God this...your God that...," these comments made by JZ/"Ramtha" never made any sense to me. (Of course that would be an example of the CONFUSION TECHNIQUE!)

Speaking of "Ramtha's" teachings on the Observer, much of that occurred in 1998. A quick check of my tape library reveals lots of coverage at the Primary Retreat of 1998:

The Observer Part I: A Scientific and Medical Study

The Observer Part II: An understanding through Quantum Mechanics the great Alchemy & the Honorable Woman and Man

The Observer Part III: Anatomy of Emotion through the Limbic System and How it is Created from the Brain to the Body, History of Emotion

The Observer Part IV: Mastership and the Equitable Relationship

If you want to listen to any of these unsubstantiated ramblings just let me know...

Re: Does JZ use indirect suggestion techniques?

There are many parallels between what is cited and the teachings-techniques used. This, and other books as have been mentioned on EMF, would certainly give one pause to wonder if in so many instances JZ isn't using the information as resources for the next phase of teachings.

Further, one thing that always was a red flag for me, is the continual bashing of psychology. I remember students being told not to read anything about psychology. The claim was it was misleading, being only in its infancy and not really understanding the human mind. The numerous correlations between the teachings and the use of assorted psychological approaches, would suggest to me that students should be reading psychology books.

I remember telling my family after certain events, where/when I witnessed students being ridiculed by "Ramtha", it was a red flag for me. As I've posted before, it's not uncommon to attempt control by using a tactic called blaming the victim. Any basic psyche book addresses this. It was common practice in RSE, across the board. I don't know of a single instance whereby RSE has taken responsibility for a "bad". Instead, it is always the student's fault. Namely, in the form of, "You created it for the experience."

A former staff member of RSE, who hasn't (yet) come forward on here, told me directly that he witnessed numerous books on all of these topics, in Judy's house. Enough people have said that, and I personally recall her saying to audience people, that she reads at least five books per week. The question really does become, has she used selected information as "teaching" content at the school, under the guise of "Ramtha" ? Lots of folks do believe she has, and does.

Some leave the school, and others feel that they don't care where the information is coming from if it's good information in their view. Maybe what they ought to ask themselves is, "If it's so good, why is it that in 30 years, there isn't one christ and the teacher/CEO, is aging?"

Re: Does JZ use indirect suggestion techniques?

Since I have been investigating the JZ/"Ramtha" "teachings" one of the things that has shocked me the most is to find "Ramthisms" in other peoples' material. For example, the comment about living to see another sunrise was something I heard JZ/"Ramtha" say many, many times.

Another comment I heard JZ/"Ramtha" say many, many times was, "Confession is good for the soul." Imagine my surprise when I heard the exact same words spoken in a movie depicting the life of Josef Stalin. Stalin made the comment himself in the 1992 HBO film starring Robert Duvall, "Stalin."

"Confession is good for the soul." How many times did I hear "Ramtha" say that? I now understand that confession is an integral component of the cult experience. The purpose of confession is to create a sense of inferiority in the "student" by focusing on their weaknesses and making them psychologically dependent on the group. (The dependence arises after a sense of vulnerability is generated.)

In her book "Cults in Our Midst" Margaret Singer lists dependency as one of six conditions cult leaders work to establish. Here are the others:

1. Keep the person unaware of what is going on and the changes taking place. (Ericksonian hypnosis will do that.)

2. Control the person's time (called disciplines) and physical environment (required events.)

3. Create a sense of powerlessness, covert fear and dependency. ("Confession is good for the soul.")

4. Suppress much of the person's old behavior and attitudes. ("Walk away from the past! Dead mules!")

5. Instill new behavior and attitudes (called the "new neighborhood," the "List.")

6. Put forth a closed system of thinking, allow no real input or criticism. (Criticise "Ramtha?" He is omnipotent!)

The "obvious unobvious" is another "Ramthism" I heard over and over again. In my opinion and experience it perfectly describes RSE. The obvious is JZ/"Ramtha's" teachings of how to change to improve the condition of one's life.

The unobvious are the six conditions listed above which have nothing to do with improving the "student's" life. The six conditions above are about power, money and control.

Buyer beware...

Re: Does JZ use indirect suggestion techniques?

is the web address of the above article. There are links from it to more information on this topic.

Re: Does JZ use indirect suggestion techniques?

Thanks, EWO !

Just FYI for all posters/readers, if you want to categorize the info with URL's that you have at any point, YOU can add them yourself by going here: http://pub43.bravenet.com/freelink/add.php?usernum=3633497066

To avoid repeated posts, spammers and lewd content from those who would post such content, the posts do require approval. The good news is, David and I check the que on a regular basis.

Re: Does JZ use indirect suggestion techniques?

In re: 'Thanks for the connection between Hilgard and "the Observer." I will check Hilgard out. One of JZ/"Ramtha's" "teachings" which I never understood was "The God Within."'

The 'observer' effect is alluded to also in the (sorry to mention this again) the great Indian epoch 'The Ramayana.' Quote in English (from Hindi)-
'BE THE WATCHER OF YOUR ACTIONS' during a scene where the Ram of the Hindu tradition is being taught by his teacher. Also taught are the 'energy centers' aka 'seals/chakras' - and how useless each center is until the kundalini is released. Words of warning are offered to the students that once the kundalini is released, this 'power' can be misused by those who are corrupt.

Just thought it was interesting to note this since it's, well, how many thousands of years old? JR took the name of 'Ram' AND 'Ramaya' directly from this epoch. You can find almost everything we'd learned at RSE elsewhere - perhaps in a pure, untainted form (of course, I'm excluding the Blavatsky et al era).

I do know one thing. JR is certainly not THIS 'Ram' which she/he claimed to be (perhaps I should post on the thread questioning what is going on in Asia as far as RSE is concerned. I can only imagine her visiting India and the big guy coming out with her blonde extensions - and proclaiming to be 'Ram.'!

Re: Does JZ use indirect suggestion techniques?

yes, please make a post about Asia.
This is the third reference I have heard concerning this topic.
yeah yeah: "I ascended on the banks of the
Indus River."

Re: Does JZ use indirect suggestion techniques?

On the subject of the origins of the name Ramtha…
Ramtha is also town in south Lebanon.