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Re: Ten years after the year 2002...

Hey, what's not fair about our Iggi telling the truth, BS?? Excusing a very misleading *youtube* promotion by saying visitors to the *TYANot website* can tell it's Joe and not Alvin in the band is beyond lame. Do you really think everyone cross-checks everything they see on the web? Why do *you* suppose Travesty Years After is still being promoted with Alvin at Woodstock?? Come on, BS, you know the answer as well as I do. You just won't admit it. Ignaz should be able to post his bit on Alvin's website message board where he is of a like mind on this issue with most readers (I have no doubt). It's your apparent inability to respect the reasonableness and appropriateness of that by feeling compelled to take open exception to it on here yet again which could be seen by some as "stirring up trouble". Not that I myself am averse to a bit of controversy. ;-) The world would be dull as tombs if everyone thought and communicated alike!

Quote: BS
Again Ignaz, you are not fair. You are German, and can read. Nobody reading from the website can be in any doubt whatsoever, that this is Ten Years After, now with Joe Gooch. I don't know what you want with your post, other than stirring up trouble again.

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Re: Ten years after the year 2002...

Hear! Hear!

Quote: Don B.
Shame old story, and why I pretty much ignore ricochicoandleo + Joe gee-whiz.

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Re: Ten years after the year 2002...

I don't agree that Alvin Lee alone was TYA, far from it. However, as I stated before, arguing doesn't get us anywhere, so I'll stop here.

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Re: Ten years after the year 2002...

BS, when I wrote earlier in German that Alvin wasn't "part" of the history of TYA as you had described, that he *was* the history, I was of course engaging in a bit of rhetorical hyperbole for the sake of emphasising a point. Certainly I don't literally believe Alvin alone was TYA in the sense that the other three were just nothing and nobody. Ricochicoandleo were important to the sound. But they weren't and aren't *absolutely indispensable* to it-- not in the way Alvin was and is. You can't deduct the most obvious, recognizable, and dominant elements of TYA-- Alvin's voice and guitar, and his songwriting contributions or song interpretations-- and call what's left Ten Years After. Not unless you're trying to capitalize on past glory because you don't have any present glory, and aren't likely to have any glory in future, either. Come on, it's plain as day. As for whether "arguing" about this "gets" us "anywhere", I'd hate to think what the world of thoughts, ideas, and principles would be like if "getting somewhere" in the short run or immediate sense were always the primary consideration. Discussion is always worth it for me, in and of itself. It's what I've always called the Grand Old Art of Thought Provocation. Sometimes one is merely planting a seed in someone's mind of another way of looking at something. Any results that may follow don't grow tall and bear fruit in a day! ;-)

Quote: BS
I don't agree that Alvin Lee alone was TYA, far from it. However, as I stated before, arguing doesn't get us anywhere, so I'll stop here.

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Re: Ten years after the year 2002...

Deep Purple does not use Ritchie Blackmore for their promotion. Und ja Menschmeier, der kerl Alvin war doch in Stuttgart!

Re: Ten years after the year 2002...

:-) :-) :-)

Quote: Jeremy Jackson
Deep Purple does not use Ritchie Blackmore for their promotion. Und ja Menschmeier, der kerl Alvin war doch in Stuttgart!

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Re: Ten years after the year 2002...

Laurie, wo hast Du Dein gutes Deutsch und Deine guten Argumente her?:-)

Re: Ten years after the year 2002...

Danke, Iggi! :-) Die Wahrheit ist, dass ich mein Deutsch von einem frueheren Leben als Widerstandskaempferin habe-- 1903-1945. Vielleicht kaum zu glauben, aber das mein ich ganz ernst. Es geht um eine unerledigte Sache. Eine tuechtige Frau laesst sich nicht unterkriegen! ;-)

Quote: Ignaz
Laurie, wo hast Du Dein gutes Deutsch und Deine guten Argumente her?:-)

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Re: Ten years after the year 2002...

Das hört sich ja interessant an, Laurie. Lass Dich nicht unterkriegen:-) !