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Does anyone know where I can get a
Jane Velez=Mitchell bobble=head?
Peace,
DLM
Whatever for, dear chap? What has my fave lesbian-feminist animal rights champion and militant vegan said/done now? I've missed her last several shows. :-)
Jane Velez=Mitchell bobble=head?
Peace,
DLM
Jane used to read the news for Ch.9 in LA back in the day. She was hilarious back when she drank. She's now sotally tober for a decade or more. She's the only broadcaster who's too loud-even when the sound's off!
. But for good-old sanctimonious, self serving preaching, give me ol' helmet hair Grace anyday!
Too loud with the sound off . . . THAT is absolutely hilarious! LOL!
Yeah, maybe Jane's taken over for Howard Cosell in sheer volume and vocal idiosyncracy, ha...not that anyone could really ever top him in those things. And I can think of other TV journalists who regularly talk pretty loudly, kind of a talk-shouting sometimes, including Mr. Blueberry Pie himself, Rev. "Weird" Al Sharpton. Jane's been sober now for going on 17 years, I think. She refers to it frequently and proudly on her show, and good for her. She's certainly emphatic, vocally energetic, and assertive in her views, and I happen to like her alot, even though I'm only semi-vegetarian, not vegan. ;-) As for Nancy, an ex of mine joked that he had her pegged as a dominatrix in the boudoir, giggle. I dunno...she might be too tired for such stuff from running after her little twins so much of the time in her off-camera hours. She was an ace trial lawyer for many years, and is no shrinking violet in expressing her views, but-- sanctimonious? How so? She strikes me as too nitty-gritty for that, as I would use the word. I can see where her brusque, no-nonsense, often testy talking style is not to everyone's taste, but I find it rather entertaining, and I do love her bulldog tenacity on behalf of victims' rights. "Helmet of hair" is about it, though!
. But for good-old sanctimonious, self serving preaching, give me ol' helmet hair Grace anyday!I'll tell you where you can get one if you'll tell me why you want one! Or are you just being coyly provocative without explanation about Ms. V-M?? Tee hee. ;-) But-- what's the beef? I may like her, but I don't always agree with her.
Jane Velez=Mitchell bobble=head?
Peace,
DLM
I like some things about her but she is so strident it hurts my nerve endings to listen to her. She shrieks rather than speaks. But the more substantive reason I don't listen to her is that at times she seems to try to manufacture conflict or controversy simply for the ratings.
Even I think Jane goes a little far with the "War on Women" stuff sometimes. Yes, there are still plenty of gender-related issues in the world for women to be up in arms about, so to speak, but in our country and culture, at least, I'd say using that particular term does little good, as if "it" were a concerted, misogynistic combat strategy against us. Certainly there are still pertinent areas where many men (and women) can use greater enlightenment, but I don't usually feel most men are actively out to do us in, or out of our Goddess-given rights. Not anymore, anyway...rueful sigh.
As for NG, sanctimonious is abso-freaking lootley spot on! No one can change her opinion, I feel so bad for her "spouse". Poor b@stard! He should have "Yes, Dear" tattooed on his forehead! 
Also, thanks Nancy, for setting my sex life back six months with that "wardrobe malfunction"! It took two days before I could see light and shade, let alone detail! The horror! The horror! . Seriously though, JVM deserves a lot of credit for her recovery. Cemeteries are full of "recovered " alcoholics.
Dear Dave, you and I just use the word "sanctimonious" differently. I can see where Nancy can come off as *self-righteous*, which is the risk any person expressing passionate, serious viewpoints takes. Whereas I think of someone being "sanctimonious" as insufferably holier-than-thou, often in a smarmy or fake-saintly way, because of the root meaning of "sanct-". I see Nancy as anything but saintly...she's feisty and often testy, and I think that's part of the armor she put on many years ago when her original fiance was murdered. This tore her life apart and eventually led to her abandoning her career plans to become an English prof specializing in Shakespeare, and go instead into criminal law. She's passionate about victims' rights, especially championing children, and does become impatient when she feels guests on her show get tangled up spouting off dry legal technicalities or making inane comments, seeming to lose sight of the fact that a child or whoever has died. Good for her. I like her fierceness. We shouldn't assume her husband is or feels dominated by her, or that she wants to dominate him, just because she's so forthright and opinionated. I'm those things too, and I would NEVER want to be in a relationship with a meek yes-person. I'd lose respect and die of boredom in a day. I LIKE another challenging mind to engage and sometimes spar with, and I would think she does too. Either that, or maybe she really digs a quiet low-key guy because she wants to relax and leave controversy at the workplace. She's seen a lot of real horror in her law career and TV show. It makes her angry, and I appreciate why. I can see she's got a good heart. I'm glad she's a warrior woman for her causes and not a sappy old-style Southern belle. As for her infamous "wardrobe malfunction", why were you watching her on " Dancing with the Stars" and taking time over the malfunction if you dislike her so much?? A lot of men I know "secretly" find her cute. She IS cute. Perhaps Dave protesteth too much? ;-)
You must know an incredible number of men if you know a lot who think Nancy is cute! I have never heard a single man say anything nice about her. I feel for her loss. It is heartbreaking to listen to her tell the story of her fiancee's murder.
Hold up a sec--- I am standing up for and defending "sappy old-style Southern belles!". Those women can be strong and fierce too, but in a different way. I consider myself to be an old-style sappy California girl . :)
I do know alot of men in the various areas of my life. Several of them do find Nancy attractive, though they may joke about her verbal style. And the reason I qualified "old-style Southern belle" with "sappy" is because I *meant* the sappy, passive, dutiful-daughter-or-wife type ones, not the fierce, feisty, or savvy ones! Scarlett O'Hara is one of my favorite characters in literature. Many strong and fascinating women have come out of the South, including Scarlett's creator, Margaret Mitchell.
Hold up a sec--- I am standing up for and defending "sappy old-style Southern belles!". Those women can be strong and fierce too, but in a different way. I consider myself to be an old-style sappy California girl . :)
I want one , cuz I want her to ride on my handlebars.
St. Christopher doesn't help with the idiot cage drivers, maybe she can be a beacon to alert drivers there is a motorcycle coming.
Peace,
DLM
where can I get the bobble=head?
LOL! What a mental image that conjures! Thanks for my laugh of the day!! :-)
I want one , cuz I want her to ride on my handlebars.
St. Christopher doesn't help with the idiot cage drivers, maybe she can be a beacon to alert drivers there is a motorcycle coming.
Peace,
DLM
It's all good, Laurie . I consider myself to be sappy because I wear a lot of pink and I love cute little chiffon dresses. :)
Oops, Dale, I forgot to tell you where you can get a JVM bobble-head doll! Uhhh...um...er... I forget. :-) Maybe the ricochicoandleo bobble-heads I glued to the top of my recycle bin will know. If they're not off in the flying saucer again, that is. Last time they were I think they hijacked Wagstaff. But I'll see what I can scare up. :-)
I want one , cuz I want her to ride on my handlebars.
St. Christopher doesn't help with the idiot cage drivers, maybe she can be a beacon to alert drivers there is a motorcycle coming.
Peace,
DLM
where can I get the bobble=head?
Yeah, Robin, it's all good. Including the pink lounge pants I happen to have on at the moment, no foolin', with multi-colored hippie daisies and peace signs all over them. Tee hee. What good is lazywear if you can't be quirky and have fun with it, I arsk? I don't wear much pink, but I don't reject it, either. It's a good healthy color. I put my daughter in it sometimes as a baby and little girl, as my mom did me. She looked good in it herself, and she was no sap! ;-) I love pink-edged "sweetheart" roses, among roses of many colors. So, think pink, indeed! I love fancy clothes, too. Hey, I danced ballet for 12 years! LOVED the tiaras! :-)
Laurie, thanks for understanding. 
Now don't get me started on tiaras!
Laurie, I must respectfully disagree with you regarding NG. She's also a bully, who runs her talk show like Al Capone ran Chicago. Also, having lost a son and daughter under 3 months old, I chafe when people like her make a living off the dead and grieving. Maybe it's me...my sister thinks she's great, and an advocate for those who can't defend themselves. I think she's a borderline ghoul, who's never wrong, and never apologizes! But then again, I'm not impartial.
Dearest Dave, I am so sorry for your loss. You have suffered far too much more than your fair share of tragedy. My heart goes out to you.
Thanks, Robin for the kind thoughs, but something happened two weeks after my daughter passed. In the town where I lived, a man lost his wife. Leaving the cemetery after the service, he blindly pulled in front of oncoming traffic, killing his three children instantly. He survived without any (physical) injuries, but I was compelled to write him and try to feebly say something to let him know he wasn't alone. But, he was. There's always someone worse off than you or I are. Always. And somewhere, he wrote to me, someone was worse off than him. I've always taken that to heart-I credit it with keeping me from going over the edge. He didn't have to write back, but I'm eternally grateful he did! Again, thanks for the kind thoughts, my friend.
Dave, you are an inspiration. I have always tried to keep from feeling sorry for myself for my nightmare childhood by telling myself that others had it worse. It helps. But it doesn't stop the pain.
I don't want to dwell on sorrowful things so I will just say that I have the greatest respect for you.
Dear Dave, I'm truly sorry for the grievous losses you've suffered. I can't imagine how hard those must have been for you. Your writing to the poor man whose children were killed leaving their mother's burial--what an unspeakably cruel fate!-- was a very kind and noble gesture. I still disagree about Nancy... I see her as indeed very bossy-- and after all, it is her show-- rather than as what I would call a bully. I can't abide bullies, and wouldn't at all like her if I really thought she was one. She knows she's got a reputation for being tough, and I suspect she lays that on pretty thick on purpose on her show for effect. None of those people have to work for her or appear on her show, in all fairness, so they're not really being bullied, however much bossed by the boss...but I think most of them respect her a great deal, and some of them are devoted to her. I've seen her cry or choke back tears spontaneously over murdered children a number of times. I don't see her as profiting from any of their deaths, but I do appreciate your sensitivity on the subject of the losses of children. I have seen her back down suddenly from a stance on numerous occasions, when the other person can point up info or insights correcting hers. I find her apparent complexities intriguing, and I like her alot, or I wouldn't feel compelled to defend her. But if you dislike her and have a different take on her, I understand... you're certainly entitled. Again, my heartfelt condolences.
Laurie, I understand why people like her for what she does. No need to re-hash it again. I still remember the young mother implicated by her in her child's death a couple of years ago."if she's not directly responsible, she's morally responsible!", words to that effect, she spoke. A few months later, after the Mom's suicide, in which she declared her innocence, an ex-boyfriend was arrested and charged by the police in her child's murder. She had to give depositions in the wrongful-death lawsuit that ensued (of course!). She pled the 5th more than a few times, and it settled out of court for an undisclosed sum. This, of course, was reported by most news channels, just not hers. No one will ever know how responsible she was, or wasn't, in driving the woman to her death. I just can't see how the benefits outweigh the deficits. Just my opinion, and I don't begrudge anyone who's a fan of hers. As I said, my own sister loves her! I'm no smarter or dumber than anyone else, so my opinion means nothing. She seems well-rested, so she apparently sleeps well at night. And, she should know if she did something wrong! So maybe she didn't! Thanks for your kind thoughts, and your understanding of my stance on this. I sure wish Alvin's album would come out soon, we need happier topics
Dave, somehow I missed the story of Nancy possibly driving an innocent mother to suicide-- that IS disturbing. It must have been during a time period when I wasn't following such stuff or watching much news...have had a lot of family member dramas during the past few years, and also lost both parents. Nancy does badger people rather shamelessly sometimes, it's true. How awful if it really contributed to someone's death! Now I'm curious to check out the details.
Hi Laurie. The incident was simply so awful I didn't want to mention it. But in my opinion Nancy Grace has reason to feel ashamed of herself and remorseful to her dying day for her role in helping to drive that grieving young mother to suicide.
I'm sorry I brought it up. We will never know exactly what happened, and she was never implicated or charged with a crime, just sued for wrongful death. She may be totally innocent of any criminal wrongdoing. And I'm sorry for calling her a ghoul, that was a cheap shot. So everyone take a deep breath, and usually your first impression of a person is usually correct. So please don't go all Zimmerman on her because of me. That wasn't my intention.
Who was it? Who was the kid? Oh dear. Was Nancy scolding the mom for leaving the kid with an abusive boyfriend? That I could see.
Laurie, I am going to honor Dave's preference and let this drop. You can easily find out what you want to know on the Internet.
I will say one last thing--- they did a Law and Order episode based on the incident.
Dave, I am sorry for coming on so strongly. I try so hard not to be judgmental . So thanks for the reminder.
All it takes these days for me to be happy is to think about the magnificent Alvin Lee. That never fails to put a smile on my face. 
Aww, thanks, Robin! 
Laurie, just google Nancy Grace, Melinda Duckett lawsuit, ABC news. And I got it wrong: her little boy is still missing. See how topics can grow legs and run off on their own?
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my
Jane Velez=
Mitchell
bobble head
doll
Peace,
DLM
Just being conversational in asking, Robin, since we've been going back and forth for awhile. Keep trying to sign off, then end up writing "one more" post, ha. I'm not really lazy about looking things up, as it may appear. I spent years as a supervisor in an academic library, and I research regularly for my writings. But I'm not super Internet-oriented currently. Nowadays, when I have bad eyestrain (I have a reattached retina in one eye, with intermittent depth perception problems) and am on my phone, as I am right now, I don't feel like doing much searching, because the mobile web print is much smaller. It'll keep till whenever.
I will say one last thing--- they did a Law and Order episode based on the incident.
Hi Laurie , I hope you did not think I was being abrupt with you, I was just feeling a bit sad for the world at large and a bit upset with myself for being judgmental.
I envy you. I think my dream job would be to get paid for research. Learning is my hobby.
Did you see Dale's latest post? That guy makes me laugh so hard!
Rest your eyes, sleep well, and have a lovely tomorrow.
OK, dude, I'm on it, I'm on it. Let me confer with the ricochicoetc. dolls on their latest flying saucer pit stop, and get back to ya. Though if it's a "Mars Needs Women" quest they're on, it's not likely Jane they'll be interested in! ;-)
want
my
Jane Velez=
Mitchell
bobble head
doll
Peace,
DLM
Hey Laurie, that reminds me.... Is 'Taint Years After still on their "Flying Saucer Tour"? Because, like flying saucers, they keep appearing in small towns in front of a handful of hillbillies! HAW, HAW, HAW! ( Thanks, Mr. Hicks! )
LOL!! Har-de-har and a half! Ooh, that's rich, Dave-- and a lot richer than 'Taint Years After are, I'll wager! ;-)