Groan - the early 80s were the worst time in music for many of the 60s/70s musicians - Alvin's two early 80s albums, in my opinion, are the worst he's ever done. Not that there aren't some great songs on them, and not that his playing wasn't suberb - they just seem to fall in that "Adult Oriented Rock" (i.e. boring) mode that too many great musicians trapped themselves in then. Clapton in the early 80s put me to sleep ( I like the reference to his "Phil Collins" period, great description). I can just imagine the thrill of hearing somebody like Stevie Ray for the first time when all you've had up to that is b-o-r-i-n-g.
But what a great treat to move backwards in time discovering some of the great guitar music of the 60s/70s - I guess that's very much like we were after hearing bands like Cream and getting to move backwards to "discover" the innovators like Muddy Waters. Awesome stuff. Besides, one of the great things about moving backwards is that you don't have to suffer through the huge arena venues - you can see some of these amazing guitarists is smaller clubs "with sweat dripping off the walls" (an Alvin quote) - truly the way the blues should be experienced.
No problem that you haven't seen Alvin, by the way - coming into the blues when you did you really haven't had all that many opportunities. But man, I promise you that when you do, you're going to be blown away - his playing, his energy level, the emotion is so incredibly powerful that I swear you'll walk out so high from it, it will take days to come back down. Kinf od like when you saw B.B. or Johnny Winter (and how can we forget to mention Johnny when we're talking about the greats?)
Mar 19, 2005 - 3:16PM
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I think the thing I realy disliked about the late 70's early 80's period was that awful chorus tone that EVERYONE used. I mean, too much of anything is, well, too much.
I was lucky in that I had an older brother who was always listening to Cream, Ten Years After, Zeppelin, Grand Funk, etc..., so I've always been somewhat familiar with the classic guitar hero's. And reading interviews with Stevie Ray, Johnny Winter and so on did lead me back to the "source", all the old 50's blues guitarists like Muddy Waters, Elmore James and Hubert Sumlin, and even further back to Robert Johnson, Skip James, and Son House. Have you ever heard of Mose Rager? He was a huge influence on Merle Travis and Chet Atkins. He was a white dude that played delta blues WAY BACK WHEN.
I guess the main reason I included Chuck Berry earlier was there's no denying his influence, even though he says he got most of his licks from T-Bone Walker(another great)and Johnnie Johnson, Berry's piano player. I thought of a couple more I would add to the list. Michael Bloomfield (check out his live stuff with Al Cooper), and Rory Gallagher, another fiery blues-rock guitarist. I was also heavily influenced by the early Allman Brothers, the interplay between Duane and Dicky was magical, to say the least. Hey, aint music a wonderful thing?,
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How could I ever forget Mike Bloomfield? I first heard him at the extremely tender age of 12 when a local record store owner (who knew my dad liked blues) sent me home with a copy of the first Butterfield Blues Band album. I think it changed my life, honestly - it was the start of my own love for blues guitar. I still rank Bloomfield as one of my all time favorites; he was just an amazing bluesman. Hard to believe both he and Butterfield are gone.
First time I saw Stevie Ray he was playing guitar for David Bowie. Great Show! I feel much like Toni does as far as the passion thing goes - I recognize his talent it just doesn't move me like some others. That's the beauty of music. In reality there is no such thing as "best" because "best" is different to everyone. On my above list I also forgot Bill Nelson, who played a brilliant show at Winterland back in the day.
How could I have left David Gilmour off my list? He had slipped my mind until last night when I heard "Shine On You Crazy Diamond", and realized it STILL sends chills down my my back. And he seems to always be consistent AND passionate, wich is no easy task.
I've read some post's saying Clapton is'nt always either of those (I'm glad evertime I've seen him, he was "ON"), and I've heard lot's of live Hendrix material where his playing is WAY off, even though he's BY FAR my favorite guitarist. Personaly, I'd take passionate over consistent any day.
But I have to agree with Victor. There is no "best". Most peoples favorite will be the first one who grabbed their heart and stoked their imagination. I have to plead ignorance on the Bill Nelson reference. Was he a solo artist, or did he play with a band? Sorry. Speaking of Winterland, you don't have to be a Dead-Head (wich I'm not) to be a huge fan of Jerry Garcia (wich I am). But again, as with the Hendrix staetment, he had some "rough" nights, to say the least. But when he was on, he could take you to another place.
alvin hands down the solo part on cant keep from crying isle of wight right after chics organ brake fu??ing alvin takes off on a guitar frenzy still never heard nothing like it god bless mr.lee made me pick up the trade and showed me about true respect toward the guitar thanks master lee.lenny v.
Preferences in order:
Stevie Ray Vaughan
Honorable Mention: Jimmy, Jimi, Eric, Jeff, Keith, Eddie, Pete, Dickie, Duane, Bill Nelson, Achim Reichel
Disgusting egomaniacs: Blackmore, Malmsteen, Dharma, all whom have criticized Alvin’s playing and style as well as many of the others on this list over the years