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2 key +3 groups wheel (each group contain 4 numbers )

Hi Ldir Family,

Please i need help.

How do i build a Group wheel for Pick 5 Lotto, using Lottery director? (or other, if possible)

any suggestion will be welcome and appreciated (if Mr. Lottery director allow it)


Explanation

I need to build A systems Groups as follow:


System
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i need to play 2 Key number Combined with 3 groups
Each group contain 4 numbers (14 Numbers, Incl Key)
Example of what i need :

-2 Digits will be 2 Key Number 01-02
-1 Digit pulled from Group 1 (03,04,05,06)
-1 Digit pulled from Group 2 (07,08,09,10)
-1 Digit pulled from Group 3 (11,12,13,14)


each group to be combined between each other
But Only 1 number per each group.

Thanks a million !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: 2 key +3 groups wheel (each group contain 4 numbers )

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Easy to do it.

You'll be using three parts of your Lottery Director software.

... 'LD Free Wheeling' to make the wheel.

... 'LD Professional Wheeling' to import the wheel.

... 'LD Lotto' to play the wheel in your game.


After you've made a couple of wheels, and see how it works, you can do it quickly.

If you're not familiar with how to do it, here it is in detail.


Step-by-Step:


(1) Click on your desktop 'Lottery Director' icon to start the software.

(2) You'll see a window with four icons:

... 'Guidebooks'
... 'LD Free Wheeling'
... 'LD Pro Software'
... 'Register Your Software'.


Here, click on your 'LD Free Wheeling' icon.

... Now you're inside your LD Free Wheeling software.


(3) Click on your 'WheelGen' icon.

... Now you're in your Wheel Generator program.


First you'll see your introduction screen. Continue on.

Just follow your instructions on each screen.


Continuing:

(4) Give your wheel a 'Pick-5' name (examples on your screen).

... Suggestions: 'LDW505' or 'LDW506' or 'LDW507'.

... The 'LDW5' means that you will make a Pick-5 wheel.


(5) Your next screen will ask how many numbers you want to wheel.

... Enter: '14'.


Now you are at your filtering menu: 'SELECT YOUR FILTERS'.

You'll be using the 'Zone Sets' filters.

'Zones' are where you separate your numbers.

You show how many numbers you want to put into each Zone, and how many you want to go into each combination in your wheel.


Continuing:

(6) Select 'Zone Sets A'

... You can enter up to 6 zones. You'll only need 4 of them.

Enter the numbers, and show how many you want to keep in each combination. Press 'Enter' after each number.

Like this:

... Zone 1: enter 1 2 ... Keep '2 to 2'.

... Zone 2: enter 3 4 5 6 ... Keep '1 to 1'.

... Zone 2: enter 7 8 9 10 ... Keep '1 to 1'.

... Zone 2: enter 11 12 13 14 ... Keep '1 to 1'.

(You're keeping both numbers from the first zone, plus 1 number from each of the other zones.)

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That's it.

To generate your wheel, press your 'Enter' key, or click on 'Make Wheel'.

You'll see some more options for controlling your wheel. You won't need them for your example.

Just continue on to generate your wheel.

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You'll get 64 combinations.

You can view them if you like.

When you exit LD Free Wheeling, your exit screen shows you the name of your new wheel.

Write it down if necessary - - you'll need it when you import the wheel (below).


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Importing Your Wheel:


Next, import your new wheel into your LD Lotto program:


... Start your LD software, as usual.

... Select 'Professional Wheeling'.

... In your LD Professional Wheeling program, select: "Import a Lotto Wheel".

Follow the instructions on your screen.

When your Professional Wheeling screen asks for the wheel name, enter the name from above.

... Example: LDW50500 or LDW50600 or LDW50700

You'll be importing a 'Numeric' wheel, and it's a single file.

Describe the wheel:

... Custom wheel (type '99')

... Match Quantity: 1

... Win Size: 1

... Win Percentage: 100


That's it.


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Summary:

You made your own custom wheel:

... Pick-5
... 4 Zones of numbers:

... ... (1 2) ... both numbers in each combination.
... ... (3 4 5 6) ... one number in each combination.
... ... (7 8 9 10) ... one number in each combination.
... ... (11 12 13 14) ... one number in each combination.

You imported it into your LD Lotto program.

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Now you'll find it in your Pick-5 game's "Wheels Directory".

Start your Lotto program, as usual.

Select your Pick-5 game, as usual.

At your game's MAIN screen, go to your PICK menu.

On your PICK menu, select "Wheeling Systems".

You'll see your wheel at the bottom of your list of wheels.

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Note:

The numbers you used above are your 'pointers'.

You can use any numbers you like in your Lotto program.

You can wheel them automatically, or manually, or both ways.


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That is a very detailed, step-by-step procedure above.

After you've made a couple of wheels and imported them, you'll see how your screens work.

Then a wheeling job like the one above can be done easily inside two minutes.

Feel free to ask any questions and explore it, if you like.


Lottery Director Support


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Re: 2 key +3 groups wheel (each group contain 4 numbers )

Hi, !!

Thank you for quick response !

I'll try it the Steps right now...

P.S
I'm a registered Ldir user since 1993 (or 94)
But for unknown reason i had no clue how to do it (i tried)

Thank so much

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Re: 2 key +3 groups wheel (each group contain 4 numbers )

Correction:


In the original message:

... Zone 1: enter 1 2 ... Keep '2 to 2'.

... Zone 2: enter 3 4 5 6 ... Keep '1 to 1'.

... Zone 2: enter 7 8 9 10 ... Keep '1 to 1'.

... Zone 2: enter 11 12 13 14 ... Keep '1 to 1'.


Should be:

... Zone 1: enter 1 2 ... Keep '2 to 2'.

... Zone 2: enter 3 4 5 6 ... Keep '1 to 1'.

... Zone 3: enter 7 8 9 10 ... Keep '1 to 1'.

... Zone 4: enter 11 12 13 14 ... Keep '1 to 1'.


(Of course.)


Thank you for your kind comment. It's always a pleasure to work with LD players.


Lottery Director Support


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Re: 2 key +3 groups wheel (each group contain 4 numbers )

Hi,

I followed your instruction and didn't worked for me..=(

At your Step i mark it what is work for me and what it doesn't (with an "OK" when right )

at your instruction everything work for me up to Step
3====================

(3) Click on your 'WheelGen' icon. (OK)

... Now you're in your Wheel Generator program.


First you'll see your introduction screen. Continue on. (OK)

Just follow your instructions on each screen. (OK)
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QUESTION HERE (Before Continuing)

Which Selection should i make?
G=Generate Wheel.. H=Check......
Z=Make a Zone.....(*) E=Estimate...
L=Make Large...... V=View..
I=Import.......... C=Convert...
X=Export.......... Q=Quit

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Continuing:

(4) Give your wheel a 'Pick-5' name (examples on your screen).

... Suggestions: 'LDW505' or 'LDW506' or 'LDW507'.

... The 'LDW5' means that you will make a Pick-5 wheel.


(5) Your next screen will ask how many numbers you want to wheel.

... Enter: '14'.
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NOTE :
UP TO HERE I HAVE NO PROBLEM, USING SELECTION G,Z or L

PROBLEM START HERE ABOVE, Where i get the filters?
I can't see it no where, (inside PROFESIONAL WHEEL)

Question :the "filtering selection is inside the LDir analisys?) I'll check,
But i remember years ago, that the Filtering (wheel) was inside of Wheeling Menu.
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I STOP IT HERE...Last Question:

IT is the posibility that my LDIR Release is Newer than My professional Wheeling (mixed release?)

(I'm sorry, for my dummy question)

MAY BE I'M NOT DOING THE RIGHT STEP.. (SORRY AGAIN)
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I Stopped here, because i have no clue
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Now you are at your filtering menu: 'SELECT YOUR FILTERS'.

You'll be using the 'Zone Sets' filters.

'Zones' are where you separate your numbers.

You show how many numbers you want to put into each Zone, and how many you want to go into each combination in your wheel.


Continuing:

(6) Select 'Zone Sets A'

... You can enter up to 6 zones. You'll only need 4 of them.

Enter the numbers, and show how many you want to keep in each combination. Press 'Enter' after each number.

Like this:

... Zone 1: enter 1 2 ... Keep '2 to 2'.

... Zone 2: enter 3 4 5 6 ... Keep '1 to 1'.

... Zone 2: enter 7 8 9 10 ... Keep '1 to 1'.

... Zone 2: enter 11 12 13 14 ... Keep '1 to 1'.

(You're keeping both numbers from the first zone, plus 1 number from each of the other zones.)

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Re: 2 key +3 groups wheel (each group contain 4 numbers )

It looks like you missed step 2 -- going to your LD Free Wheeling.


Here it is again from the original message:


(2) You'll see a window with four icons:

... 'Guidebooks'
... 'LD Free Wheeling'
... 'LD Pro Software'
... 'Register Your Software'.


Here, click on your 'LD Free Wheeling' icon.

... Now you're inside your LD Free Wheeling software.


(3) Click on your 'WheelGen' icon.

... Now you're in your Wheel Generator program.



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Then you can make the wheel using the rest of the steps.


Every question is welcome -- always feel free to ask them.


Lottery Director Support


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Re: 2 key +3 groups wheel (each group contain 4 numbers )

Hi,

Thank you Mr. Joe,

Yes, !! I Got it,

I had no idea that the Wheelgen Icom was so Important !!
(I was doing it trough professional wheeling)

I'm sorry, and i understand the hard time you got time to time, for user like me ( )

Thank you a Lot, I'll start my project right now..

Thank you !!!

Andres Gonzalez

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Re: 2 key +3 groups wheel (each group contain 4 numbers )

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Never any problem -- it is a pleasure working with LD players.


Lottery Director Support


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Re: 2 key +3 groups wheel (each group contain 4 numbers )

Sooner or later I knew someone would catch on.
Personally
I take three Primary sets of numbers say [(1,11,21,31,41), (2,12,22,32,42), (5,15,25,35,45)]

Filter them for a 1-1, so each combination would contain at least one 1, one 2, one 5. Force each subset into a set of an abbreivated wheel that guarrantees a 5 if 5 (with 49 integers). The each abbreivated wheel would have I think 300ish combinations mulitple by the subets and you are still under 100k in cominbations.
Concatenate all the subsets to make large set. And then very VERy lightly filter it. (One or two large filters), at this point you will still have a decent file , but run a skip on the combinations and play within your means. If any of the primary sets fail, just chase it and replace the winning primary set with new ones. Returns are between 40% and 60%, and every once in a while you get a bunch of 4/6 and 5/6.
The chance of the 6/6 still exists, but you get the benefit of having more smaller wins without using a full filter,which keeps you in the game longer.

If want to up your odds, use a 5if5 with more win guarrantees. (Like 10-15)

That is my method.
Good luck
therealpoorboy

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