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jlkolpin
IP: 65.102.121.50 May 2, 08 - 11:48 PM |
My Family Legend of the killer gremlin
I just had to spout this out because right now I am sitting at home grinning from ear to ear... This is a long story but I think everyone will get something out of reading this.. For the last 15 or so years my dad has told me the story of the baddest ass little gremlin he ever saw. Dad worked with his friend Chuckie and in 1973 Chuckie bought a gremlin with 5000 miles, his first new automobile. Dad's story went something to the effect of how this gremlin had a 6 in it with a 4bbl carb and manifold and chuckie brought it to work a few times at the local bus depot. Dad said Chuckie could put her in gear and stomp the gas and the car wouldn't move, smoke billowing from the wide rear tires that were on it. Dad also had stories of the little gremlin beating many V8 powered cars of the time as well. Dad had an infatuation with this gremlin and told me the story at least a 1000 times. Over the last 10 years or so dad and Chuckie both developed diabetes and both eventually suffered from kidney failure. Three days a week they sat together for 4 hours connected to dialysis machines. Dad kept asking Chuckie if he still had the gremmy and if he'd sell it, the answer was always the car isnt for sale. Chuckie eventually went blind from his condition and couldn't drive. He had a small stable of hot rods and nice cars including a vette and a built 47 chevy hot rod truck. Chuckie sold every vehicle he had but would not let that gremlin go. I work in a nursing home and last year Chuckie started getting pretty bad off and wound up living in the home I worked in. A few months later Chuckie passed and dad and I both wrote the gremlin off as lost. A few months ago I was at work and one of the nurses had the same last name Chuckie had and i asked if she was related. She said yep that's my brother in law. I asked her what happened to the gremlin and she said "THAT UGLY THING?!?! We'd probably pay you to take it.". I told her sold sight unseen, at lunch she called her husband and they agreed to sell it to me for $200. I called dad and thought he was gonna pee his pants he was so excited. That night with directions to where the car is sitting I went up and looked at it real quick. It was under a tarp and I didnt want to take it off just yet with all the snow so I kinda peaked under it and she looked pretty decent. Peeking out from under the tarp were personalized plates that read "Gremmy". I never even opened up the hood. for the last two and a half months I have been methodically going through this site, youtube, and other places getting every gremlin video and ounce of information I could in anticipation of the delivery this spring. me and dad talked about nothing but the gremlin like a couple kids for a month and a half. We had plans to take it to the local drag strip this summer and have some fun with it. On march 21st of this year dad passed away, never getting to see the gremlin but he told me DO NOT let that car get away from you no matter what. I said okay. Today was "G DAY"! I got a tow vehicle lined up and this afternoon I went and paid for it and uncovered the little gremmy. When I pulled the tarp off I almost had a heart attack.. This little sucker is a 73 Levis edition with the 258.. my heart started pounding... I just scored big and I knew it. With little hesitation I went inside and pulled the hood latch.. The cable was broke. While there i looked at the odometer and it reads 41,688.2 miles. I went out to the front of the car and they had the cable strung out through the grill so I popped it with a pair of pliers and slowly opened the stiff bonnet. Inside the car is the 258 just like dad said.. but what he didn't know was exactly what had been done to the engine.. low and behold I got the pure joy of realizing the little 258 has a clifford 6=8 intake, 4bbl, and split header.. My wife thought I was insane but I lost my breathe a little. I'm no idiot that little 6 is gonna pull hard. Let alone this car is the cleanest gremlin I seen in person in years and years..no rust.. NONE! Dad was no fool and he knew good and well what that car was. His 15 years of persistence paid off big for me and even thinking about it brings a tear to my eye... gonna be hard to drive this sucker without getting all mushy inside.. and with all this said I present with great pride to my fellow gremlin owners my super sweet, stored for almost 30 years 1973 AMC Gremlin X Levis car.... This car will be with me the rest of my life and is one of the greatest things my dad ever helped me with... More pictures once I tear into her... https://mtfreetech.us/index.php?full=1&set_albumName=album32&id=DVC00193&name=gallery&include=view_photo.php |
jlkolpin
IP: 65.102.121.50 May 2nd, 2008 - 11:53 PM |
If the above link causes you problems try this one http://mtfreetech.us/index.php?full=1&set_albumName=album32&id=DVC00193&name=gallery&include=view_photo.php |
GremlinXman
IP: 69.0.82.32 May 3rd, 2008 - 9:24 AM |
Looks great! Great story and great deal on an awsome gremlin. Sorry to hear about your Dad passing. I think it is great you are able to keep the car that you have known about for all your years. Davis |
74Gremlin
IP: 24.40.210.48 May 3rd, 2008 - 12:57 PM |
That's the best car buy I have ever seen on any car let alone a Gremlin. You will certainly enjoy the car. Sorry your dad could not enjoy it again, but now it will make great memories for you. Enjoy |
Nathan Currie
IP: 24.10.185.64 May 3rd, 2008 - 6:45 PM |
$200 bucks for that Gremlin. You scored a great one. Enjoy it. |
EricMU
IP: 4.239.51.189 May 4th, 2008 - 10:40 AM |
Looks really nice, but did you take any pictues of the interior? I'm bummed that there wasn't a way for your dad to see the car again. Good luck with that nice car! Lucky that you live in a dry state! Eric |
jlkolpin
IP: 65.102.121.50 May 4th, 2008 - 11:46 AM |
Today I am going out where I moved it to and getting better pictures. It was in a real tight place there and I couldn't get any decent angles.. i just wanted to get pics before it moved.. The car is also full of parts in the back.. There's a brand new chrome valve cover and a few other boxes I'm not sure of and the entire back half of the interior is taken apart (probably in prep for finishing the crushed velvet interior) While I'm at it I'm going to start work on it. Naturally the car has been sitting forever so everything is all gummed up. There are no brakes in it right now (pedal drops to floor) and I seen on a wheel where there was brake fluid leaking so I am think a brake cylinder needs replaced.. still gonna go through the entire brake system and replacing as needed.. while I'm at it going to hit the wheel bearings to boot. The car is going to take a bit of work as it as parked just off a super steep alley and the e-brake was set for a few years. One of the rear wheels was locked up and we couldn't get it freed up there. Thats first on the list so I at least have the parking brake while moving it around.. Once I get the wheels freed up I'm going to start preparing the engine/tranny/fuel system for it's first start. Here's my plan of attack maybe someone might have a few ideas or pointers they could toss at me too: throttle cable is sticky so it needs to be cleaned and lubed at least same with the choke cable (manual choke) replace fuel filter change oil make sure radiator is completely drained and refill change tranny fluid (is there a filter I can clean or replace?) pull of the air cleaner and peek at the carb condition.. if it smells like varnish I'll probably pull apart and clean it out, same with gas tank. I'll probably try to clear the fuel lines with something and some air pressure My plan is to try to nicely turn over the crank with a wrench to see if anything is locked up or weird feeling.. if it feels weird I might try the atf in the spark plug hole trick, not sure I want to go there though.. once i get to a point I think it's relatively safe to hit the starter I'll probably remove the coil wire and tap her a few times, if she sounds okay I'll give it a couple good cranks with the starter, check to see if the fuel pump is pushing fuel if all seems okay I'll try to start it.. if she starts WEEEE, if not i'll troubleshoot as necessary.. if she does start I plan on leaving the cap off the radiator in order to watch for things like bubbles (head gasket type stuff).. Naturally I'll be watching the oil pressure light closely, wishing i had a oil pressure guage kit to drop in there real quick but it'll work. I'm on a tiny tiny budget so I have to try to revive this thing as cheap as possible then work on it over time. I just graduated from college and haven't scored the good job yet so once the work situation changes the gremlin will definitely get the attention it needs in full. So later on today check back because I will have much more detailed photos up of the current condition as well as my progress which I plan on sharing with the world as I go..can't help it, I'm in love with this car |
woody
IP: 72.69.109.219 May 4th, 2008 - 11:12 PM |
Wow, that is a great story. Glad you shared it with us. Trust me, any time you work on that car your Dad and Chuckie will be with you. You just have to give them a chance to help you. I lost my mom a few years ago and I still hear her tell me things. Doing the "right thing". Enjoy the car. Don't fix it then be afraid to drive it. If you have kids, let them be a part of it. Before you fix anything, make sure you have brakes working. I know some people that put money into engines and speed and forget the brakes. No sense in speed if you can;t stop! Hope to see you at some AMO events. Good luck woody |
jlkolpin
IP: 65.102.121.50 May 5th, 2008 - 1:49 AM |
Believe me this car isn't going to be driven anywhere beyond the garage to it's parking spot until i feel it is safe to do otherwise and it has a long way to go... I'm not a total perfectionist but I do things right. I spent most of today with the gremmy. Got the rear brake broke loose and the e-brake working properly. I kind of had a last minute change of heart this morning. i thought it would be cheap to see if she fires up and a waste to fix the brakes to find out the engine is seized up or has internal damage somehow so today we did all the prep on the engine, had to make a shot or two to the parts store for radiator cap etc, commenced in putting a little fuel in the tank and poof.. the tank is rotted.. holes everywhere, any ideas on where to find a GOOD replacement? We did put some tank patch junk on it for the moment and patched up all the holes but I'm not running any fuel from that tank through the hoses. It's gotta go or get restored somehow. After we got it patched and all the gas evaporated out we pulled the car outside, put a battery in it and dropped a little fuel in the carb. i tested the crank with a wrench first and everything spins freely and to be honest quite nicely it seems. We set up a make-shift fuel tank outside the car and ran it to the fuel pump. We primed the carb with a tiny shot of fuel I hit the starter and bam it started right up idled for a few seconds.. Bad ass sound out of them headers.. It's not pumping fuel so tomorrow I grab a fuel pump for it. Idea is I want to warm it up once to make sure it's not gonna blow oil all over the place before i spend a few hundred bucks on the brakes.. I also need the car to be able to pull itself into and out of the garage while I work on it. also traction bars work well on gremlins? I seem to recall they can hop under load. A few new facts since I got to look closer: it has a Holley 2 barrel on the clifford intake I believe it has a 3 core radiator in it. Still have to verify it I didnt look too close myself Every piece of rubber on the suspension is rotted (any ideas where i could get preferably newer style materials for it?) I'm gonna have to replace pretty much every piece of rubber on this thing. it has coil over shocks on the rear that need replaced no new images yet tomorrow i may have a few videos on youtube of it |
GremlinGal
IP: 152.130.7.134 May 5th, 2008 - 10:39 AM |
What an awesome story and car! Thank you for sharing the history & photos. I wouldn't change a thing on 'Gremmy'. Have fun and keep us informed of the projec progress. |
Gremil
IP: 72.26.17.114 May 5th, 2008 - 3:32 PM |
Thanks for sharing this and the photos. Sorry about your father, but he would have been proud of you getting that car. I've been an AMC six enthusiast for many years. Love those Clifford intakes! My 77 Gremlin had sat for about 18 years before I got it. The fuel tank was sludged over and rusted through. I was totally unable to find a fuel tank at the time so I took it to a radiator shop and had it boiled out and repaired. Worked great and not very expensive. You can coat the interior with something designed for fuel tanks and it will never rust through again. I believe Eastwood and POR-15 make great products for this, but probably many other brands around. In fact, I know Eastwood makes paint that is similar in color to the outside of the tank so it can still look original once the outside is painted if that's important. I painted my tank semi-gloss black since I wasn't concerned about the stock appearance. Either way, I believe you may be able to save the tank if it's not completely in pieces. Once you get that engine purring, and I know you will, I would consider ignition upgrades. My 77 Gremlin has an automatic transmission also. I would make sure the linkage from the throttle to the transmission is working properly. Otherwise the transmission won't work properly and may even be damaged. Hopefully when they installed the Holley carburetor they made or bought linkage parts to do this. I have pictures of my engine in case you may want to see how this was can be done. Once you get this car running properly I'd check the compression. Stuck rings or corroded valves can make the compression vary a lot from cylinder to cylinder. Properly tuned, on a mechanically sound AMC six, the intake and exhaust you are running will be impressive as far as power is concerned and your mileage won't be bad either. I had a 72 Gremlin with Clifford intake/dual headers 4 speed T-10 transmission a long time ago. I can't tell you the amount of times I opened the hood at the drag strip and watched people's jaws drop upon seeing the six. Even if I had gone heads up against a V8 Camaro and lost, it was very close. They just assumed it was a V8 Gremlin. Sure disappointed them to see it was a six. One guy told me, "If the sixes run this good, I hate to hook up with a V8 one!" I then informed him I beat the V8 304 stock Gremlins easily with my six. It's wont' handle a 401 Gremlin, but you'll pass them refueling at the gas station! Good luck on your prize find. Keep us updated as you make progress. |
jlkolpin
IP: 65.102.121.50 May 5th, 2008 - 11:52 PM |
Got her started and running (idling using a gas can for a fuel tank).. had a few problems in the process nothing to big as of yet.. Had to replace the holley's float bowl gaskets. Installed a new fuel pump, fuel filter, packed the front bearings and checked front brakes (pads look good, bearings looked taken care of).. I filled the brake reservoir with brake fluid today and pumped the brakes up.. no visible leakage as of yet but will see what happens tomorrow.. still need to bleed the brakes properly and set up though.. water pump is pumping water, oil pressure looks good, engine temp guage looks sane and thermostat appeared to work properly. Had to bye pass the heater core today because it or a hose is leaking. Seeing a little smoke out of one of the pipes so I am thinking I may have a leaking valve seal, not sure yet and am going to leave that until the brakes are done. I put it in reverse, 1, 2, 3 while idling today. Something kind of clunked not sure which piece of the drive train it is yet, will get the car up on ramps tomorrow and look. Going to remove the gas tank tomorrow and drain it and see if i can find somebody that can repair it for me locally.. taking the advice with high hopes but this is a small town so.. If I can get the tank and brakes done and everything seems relatively sane I could get a slow and short ride around the block in the gremmy in a day or two. Then I have to start tending to all the details until she's worked back into the best shape I can afford at the moment.. I might actually get to drive it a couple times this spring even. |
Gremil
IP: 72.26.17.114 May 6th, 2008 - 12:08 AM |
If your town has a radiator shop, then you'll be able to get it boiled out and an estimate for repair. My 77 Gremlin sat for about 18 years and smoked when first started. The smoking went away little by little after driving it. To give you an idea of the change, it would foul number one and two spark plugs after only a day or so of driving. Now I've put thousands of miles on it and the plugs come out clean. See if the rings seat on their own and hopefully the valve seals may respond favorably too. Bleed the brakes really good because the brake fluid may have lots of corrosive moisture. Carb cleaner down the metal fuel line and blown out with compressed air wouldn't hurt either. The clunk sound you heard putting it in gear could have been the universal joints. Check them and see what condition they are in. Good luck!
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jlkolpin
IP: 65.102.121.50 May 7th, 2008 - 11:18 AM |
brakes brakes brakes... thank goodness they're pretty cheap to rebuild we tried flushing a bit yesterday to see if the master cylinder worked.. it pumps up but I want to replace it anyhow. We were bleeding one corner getting a good portion of the old stuff out. After about 15 minutes of pumping the wheel cylinder blew out. I'm going down this morning and buying wheel cylinder kits for the entire car. The shoes all look good and naturally we have to clean up everything inside each drum and inspect. Everything is sticking inside.. I think we have a good methodology happening right now and we're gonna stick to it. Idea is to lightly massage the car back into fighting shape piece by piece and let the car tell us what it needs (it's been pretty good about that.. when we went to start it we put fuel in the tank and it ran on the floor... we bypassed the tank and the fuel pump wasn't working.. replaced the fuel pump and the float bowl gaskets were leaking.. now we have a sane fuel system minus a tank.. worked good). Now as for the fuel tank. I found a radiator shop that will do exactly what was suggested here. They want $150 to do it all including the sealer treatment, not bad at all really. Then I was at the Jegs website and came across a 12 gallon poly pro street fuel cell and mounts for around $250 with hardware. I'm thinking this is the way to go since the car is already a modded street fighter and I could shed a few pounds.. with foam (at an additional cost) the safety factor goes up as well. I like this since the tank is already almost married to the back bumper and I think I can increase that space with the poly tank Question is any loud BOOS from the forum or does it seem sane? I'd probably still have the original tank done later and seal and store it with other parts I have.. the entire back end of the interior is out of the car, the wheel well moldings are broken and it seems there are no 1/4 panels for under the rear windows.. any suggestions? I had a fella suggest I get a carpet kit from Whitney. Source claimed the carpet will cover where the wheel well moldings went. Not so sure I want to put the rear seat back in.. it's a cherry levi's seat and doesnt match the crushed velvet fronts at all. Sooo I'm thinking I want to install a 4 point roll bar in the back.. I think that with the fuel cell and a few minor things would help make the car appear like the street fighter that Chuckie wanted it to be, dad would like it too, he was a big safety freak. Question is.. anyone got any old drawings/dimensions for the large hoop they may have installed in a car? Would make my design work lots simpler and I'm not too experienced at the integrity part of roll bars, so foot placement and design is the big thing for me. After that I can weld really well and am a decent fabricator (just havent done it much in some years). We have a wire feed/chop saw/grinders etc at the garage.. If the roll bar doesn't look good it's not going in the car.... In all of this we have to remember that this car was Chuckie's street fighter it is not original, it has had full body paint that is not the original color, it has crushed velvet interior up front.. the levis stuff was removed from the front.. So keep in mind that I plan to keep in tow with the street fighter/weekend warrior (we have an 1/8 mile bracket racing strip here about 30 miles away) idea and just modernize it with things like 4 point safety harness, roll bar, fuel cell, Hei, Dry Cell battery, other safety features like fuel shut-off, battery shut-off, better shifter.... basically pro street without the big drivetrain, powerplant, transmission common to that type of car.. off to the happy land of brakes.. I work the next few days so little progress then I am guessing.. tiny initial budget is also running short but I may have something I can at least pull in and out of the garage while I work on it before it does... hehe |
Gremil
IP: 72.26.17.114 May 7th, 2008 - 9:00 PM |
First, it's your car to do with as you wish. I wouldn't sweat others who don't like what you might be thinking. I drive my Gremlin practically everyday, so mine is stock tank, no roll bar. But it's not factory original by any means. When I got my 77 Gremlin the brakes didn't work and pedal went to the floor leaking brake fluid everywhere. I replaced the master cylinder and front disc calipers and bled it out. Stopped fine even if lots of pedal pressure was required. I raised the back wheels and put it on jack stands to check the driveshaft, emergency brake and speedometer cable. Once the back wheels started spinning the emergency brake stopped them just fine. You can imagine my shock watching the rear wheels spinning and I was standing, literally lifted out of the seat, on the brake pedal. The rear wheel cylinders were so rusted up that even though I bleed the system, it still wouldn't move a wheel cylinder piston. Better not to trust anything on an old brake system. On the missing panels below the quarter windows you can fabricate new panels from masonite or hardboard and have them vinyl or carpet covered. If you change that six cylinder differential, if it already hasn't been changed, it will give you a lot more durability. Might think about doing that before buying those rear brake parts. If you can get a really low gear ratio, that six will do a killer 1/8 mile. It will drop your fuel mileage on the highway though. Nothing wrong with using a fuel cell if that's what you like. Be advised however that the stock fuel tank is 21 gallons which is great for long trips even if hard to the wallet with fuel prices these days. |
jlkolpin
IP: 65.102.121.50 May 10th, 2008 - 11:23 AM |
off to the shop.. brakes brakes brakes.. still waiting on the front and rear hoses and master cylinder but I can go flush the metal brake lines and finish the internals today.. After seeing what a set of front indy profiles run I am having the original tank repaired for now to save money for the tires. I'm on a limited budget and I figure I could sell the repaired and treated tank later if I really wanted to and get my money back. Once we get as far as we can go with the brakes I have a few small things like belt, hoses, etc to do. I still have to buy a permanent battery for it and mount it too. A tranny flush and filter is in order as well (any pointers on flushing the tranny? I've never done this before). Into the car about $700 or so now just to keep tabs. I also got the title Yesterday...
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Gremil
IP: 72.26.17.114 May 10th, 2008 - 1:06 PM |
Some transmission shops have transmission flushing equipment that will get all the fluid out of the torque converter. However, my 77 Gremlin did have a drain plug on the torque converter. If you remove the cover under the bell housing and rotate the engine slowing you can find the drain plug on the converter. Once you drain the pan you can drain the converter. This should get pretty much 100 percent of the fluid. You can remove the cooling lines to the radiator and flush them if you like. Just remember to put enough oil into the pan before you start the engine. I usually add pan capacity plus two quarts before starting the engine then add little by little until nearly full. You may have to put these particular transmissions into "Drive" and "Reverse" a few times to get the oil circulating properly to be sure the fluid level is accurate. Try leaving it in "Neutral" when checking the fluid level. Don't overtighten the pan gasket and it should not leak. Most of the time when one of these is leaking it's due to the pan bolts being overtightened. Good luck. |
jlkolpin
IP: 65.102.121.50 May 10th, 2008 - 10:50 PM |
Back brakes are ready, gas tank is out and ready to go to repair on monday, all new fuel lines put into place throughout. ToDo: front brakes fan belt oil change tranny flush re-mount one of the wings up top install gas tank replace radiator hoses and flush (lower hose on order) replace vacuum lines, pcv valve, (where to get rubber grommet for the valves and the valve hose up front?) install the chrome valve cover (gasket type and material used to install) new front tires install master cylinder and bleed brakes new exhaust from headers back Notes: I have looked EVERYWHERE I can fit my fat body into and I cannot find ANY cancerous rust on any of the body panels, rocker panels, etc.. the car is truly clean.. every bolt feels new to break, even the rusted ones break free nicely. Every bolt we remove gets the rust removed from it. I need to figure out how to clean up the block and maybe paint even.. I need to know the proper way to install and the type of valve cover gasket/materials to use because i seem to remember that being leaky bugger on these engines. The plastic gate for the shifter has the screws pulled through on both left side mounting holes (when i look at this just wonder what kind of racing action that shifter probably got).. maybe some little washers and longer screws would look okay (panheads maybe). I think I'm going to remove the lower dash shelf from the car. The mounts on the sides aren't screwed down because it would require holes poked in the crushed velvet. He tried to put a dash cover of some sort in the car and now the dash is covered in glue.. dashmat maybe. It needs a new shifter knob or the nylon spacer inside the T-handle. Seat Belts are dry, anything to revive them? another week hard at it off and on and I think i'll have it if the gas tank comes back fairly fast... lots more to do but i could drive it here and there anyhow.. |
Gremil
IP: 72.26.17.114 May 11th, 2008 - 10:04 AM |
I've never had a valve cover leak, ever, on an AMC six. I don't think they have a problem there unless improperly installed, very old gasket or completely loose. I avoid silicone gasket sealer where ever possible since that destroys the anti-foaming agents added to motor oil in all motor oils including synthetics. I used the Permatex with the brush built into the bottle like aircraft mechanics or VW aircooled mechanics use. Not a drop has ever come out. The only oil you should have up there is where you missed the hole adding oil! While I had the car completely disassembled I took my retractable seat belts and flushed them out with a light spray lubricant like WD-40. While flushing them I pulled the belt in and out until it flowed perfectly. They still work great today. I would avoid oiling them with anything thicker as they could get dust and dirt in the mechanism and begin to hang up. Good luck with that shifter. Sounds like someone was slamming the shifter trying to edge out some Mustang V8. |
jlkolpin
IP: 65.102.121.50 May 13th, 2008 - 8:28 PM |
front brake hoses arrived today. Also got a master cylinder but I ordered a new not refurb and the napa guy claimed they had the last one on the planet sent to them and it was damaged so I settled for a refurb.gas tank is at repair shop. tomorrow going to get the front brake cylinders honed so I can install the kits and we can put the fronts back together. yesterday we replaced the engine oil and filter and belt while we were at it. taking our time with the brakes. I've been running the brake internal parts over wire wheel to remove the rust, also been de-rusting the insides of the backing plates and drums. The drums had white paint on them so I repainted with white primer.. if it doesn't work I'll take the wire wheel to it again.. Still no big hidden surprises as of yet. Chuckie had some gadgets of the day including one of them old slide in stereo/cb attachments under the dash so we've been taking all that stuff out as we go just to clean it up. I believe every visible wire under the hood is now what came from the factory only. I still need to get some vacuum hoses replaced, pcv valve, and it needs that rubber o-ring seal on the back of the valve cover, the original is all cracked and dried up. keeping at it.. |
Gremil
IP: 72.26.17.114 May 14th, 2008 - 9:41 AM |
If you are talking about the rubber pieces that hold the PCV valve in the valve cover you might get lucky and fine those at the local Auto Parts store. I would take the old cracked one with me to compare to the ones sold. They should be in the odds and ends area of the parts store where the throttle return springs etc. are. I also believe you can get them from Kennedy American and UPD. |
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